# JD Vance couch story **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 14, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-couch-story/1005715 "2024-08-14T20:38:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-couch-story/1005715/4 "2024-08-14T20:58:39Z")
This is being discussed here: > [@What's the straight dope on J.D. Vance and couches/eyeliner?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479): > > Recently I’ve read that Vance did not, as some believe, have sexual congress with a piece of furniture, nor does he use eyeliner, as has been claimed by his detractors. Is there a factual basis to either of these claims? Vance’s supporters seem to be denying that he wrote anywhere about the sex stuff, but on the other side, others seem to claim that he did write it but it was deleted before publication–is that accurate? If so, how can it be proven what was and what wasn’t in a deleted draft? Or … --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-couch-story/1005715)._