# JD Vance Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/321 "2024-09-01T22:32:21Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > There’s an online theory that he’s a closet homosexual… Damn! After reading your fine post, I’m convinced. Seems pretty damn obvious when you see it all spelled out. I wonder if this theory will get the traction that the couch story did? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/322 "2024-09-01T22:59:33Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Damn! After reading your fine post, I’m convinced. Seems pretty damn obvious when you see it all spelled out. Especially when you add in the Peter Thiel connection. > **[How Peter Thiel and Hulk Hogan broke Gawker: UpVote 24](https://www.wired.com/story/ryan-holiday-conspiracy-peter-thiel-gawker-hulk-hogan/)** > > When Gawker outed billionaire investor Peter Thiel, he decided to drive it secretly out of business. How? With Hulk Hogan and a sex tape. Ryan Holiday tells the incredible story – and explains why this case shows the need for more conspiracies. > [@](#): > > …Vance began planning for a career pivot outside of law following the talk [Thiel gave at Yale], noting Thiel was “possibly the smartest person” he ever met and that Thiel’s Christian faith “defied the social template I had constructed—atheists,” according to the post. > > Thiel later became a “pretty good mentor” to Vance, according to [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/12/21/daily-202-why-the-author-of-hillbilly-elegy-is-moving-home-to-ohio/5859da6ee9b69b36fcfeaf48/), with Vance making the switch to venture capital and joining the Thiel-co-founded Mithril Capital in 2015 as a partner, according to Politico… > **[JD Vance And Peter Thiel: What To Know About The Relationship Between Trump’s...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/16/jd-vance-and-peter-thiel-what-to-know-about-the-relationship-between-trumps-vp-pick-and-the-billionaire/)** > > Vance once worked for Thiel in venture capital and later received millions of dollars in donations from the billionaire during his Senate run. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/323 "2024-09-01T23:03:59Z")
I don’t get a “closet case” vibe from Vance the same way I do with, say, Lindsay Graham or Mike Johnson or Michelle Bachmann’s husband. (Remember when she was the most batshit Republican in office? Good times.) He just strikes me as your average mysogynist who got married because he felt like he was expected to and resents single and childless people because he wishes he could have the life he imagines that they do. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/324 "2024-09-01T23:12:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Michelle Bachmann’s husband Marcus?? You think _Marcus_ might be gay? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UUpPNJhApFg/hqdefault.jpg "Marcus Bachmann Defends 'Gay Conversion' Clinics") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUpPNJhApFg) > [@Smapti](#): > > He just strikes me as your average mysogynist who got married because he felt like he was expected to and resents single and childless people because he wishes he could have the life he imagines that they do. You’re probably right. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/325 "2024-09-01T23:50:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I don’t get a “closet case” vibe from Vance He describes in his autobiography that he thought he was gay as a youth. So, probably he is gay, but in denial and struggling to convince himself that he is straight. > **[How JD Vance went from thinking he was gay and changing his name twice to...](https://www.advocate.com/election/jd-vance-gay-name-change)** > > Donald Trump’s vice-presidential pick has reinvented himself repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/326 "2024-09-02T00:02:53Z")
Sounds like a shape-shifting lizard-person shedding one skin to reveal a different one underneath. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/327 "2024-09-02T00:11:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He just strikes me as your average mysogynist who got married because he felt like he was expected to and resents single and childless people because he wishes he could have the life he imagines that they do. My impression of him is that he did poorly with the ladies when they weren’t drunk at a frat party (maybe because he was dressed up as a blonde woman), and Usha was the first woman who paid him the time of day. He probably told himself that they rejected him because they were future childless cat women. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/328 "2024-09-02T01:04:36Z")
I think Vance will be whatever he thinks is the most advantageous thing for him to be in whatever his current circumstances are. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/329 "2024-09-02T01:13:02Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > I think Vance will be whatever he thinks is the most advantageous thing for him Bingo. If Vance thought he could get money and/or votes by becoming a furry, he’d start showing up for rallies in a fursuit and declaring that JD stands for Jaguar Daddy. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/330 "2024-09-02T01:25:57Z")
Couchboy asserts that you cannot be a good person unless you have children. Couchboy has children. How to resolve thing conundrum … ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/331 "2024-09-02T01:52:42Z")
I read his book. In it he details all the things he said/did to appeal to the procession of men in his mother’s life, to get them to like him. It was pathetic and sad. Now that he’s a grown-ass adult, he’s managed to slither his way onto the national stage, and now that same tendency is dangerous - for us. He’ll say or do whatever his orange master wants, because he has no real moral compass of his own. I hope we don’t get a chance to see what that looks like in 2025. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/332 "2024-09-02T03:32:42Z")
And now for something lighter - a classic Conan O’Brien sketch about a problematic 1930s crooner that sounds exactly like something Vance would say. > ---
**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/333 "2024-09-02T16:15:36Z")
I keep getting vibes from him that say that even though he’s married and has children, he’s an Incel at heart. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/334 "2024-09-02T16:41:45Z")
I get the incel vibe, not the closeted/denying gay vibe. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/335 "2024-09-02T17:04:21Z")
Well, he’s got the beard for it. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/336 "2024-09-02T17:40:13Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > he’s an Incel at heart. His quote from a couple of weeks ago, about how he played the card game Magic: The Gathering in high school, but that (his quote) “15-year-old girls do not like Magic: The Gathering. So I dropped it like a bad habit” is consistent with that hypothesis. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/337 "2024-09-02T17:43:42Z")
He didn’t know the right girls. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/338 "2024-09-02T19:10:13Z")
Lucky for them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/339 "2024-09-02T20:00:10Z")
> [@susan](#): > > He didn’t know the right girls. There weren’t any girls at all at my high school who played M:tG. Then again, there also weren’t any girls at my high school who didn’t play M:tG. But seriously, there are probably a lot fewer girls who play football than Magic. And yet that doesn’t stop Vance-types from playing football. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/340 "2024-09-02T20:05:03Z")
Perhaps watching football attracts girls in a way that M:tG doesn’t? The ways of high school girls remains mysterious to me despite having been one and taught them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=18)