# JD Vance Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/341 "2024-09-02T20:18:01Z")
Me too. You can want to fuck women and still see them as sub-humans you want nothing to do with and begrudgingly accept as having a few uses. Dudes like this see penetration as inherently degrading. They have nothing but contempt for women who are willing to submit to penetration to manipulate men, and a weird, very limited respect for women who are willing to submit to it out of what they see as love. They don’t think women like penetration, both because no one could, and because they don’t think of women as people, and liking or disliking things is something people do. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/342 "2024-09-02T20:23:51Z")
It all makes me think of Raccoona Sheldon/James Tiptree, Jr.'s story [“The Screwfly Solution.”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwfly_Solution) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/343 "2024-09-02T20:27:46Z")
(Aside: @susan , I take it you just changed your avatar? Right now, I’m seeing the South Park avatar on post 340, and the rose avatar in @MandaJo 's reply in 341 and your post 342. It’s a bit disorienting. I’m guessing that this is due to the way that Discourse continually updates open threads.) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/344 "2024-09-02T20:36:44Z")
Interesting! Yes, just changed my avatar. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/345 "2024-09-02T23:32:53Z")
It’s pretty. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/346 "2024-09-02T23:35:49Z")
Thanks! Sometimes I get just a small inkling of how a bee might see it with a range extending into ultraviolet. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/347 "2024-09-03T01:10:33Z")
Yes. That’s a lovely new avatar that suits you. Despite the disorientation of the change. As to HS girls I never understood them, but was far more afraid of them rather than any amount of contemptuous of tbem. HS is a hard time regardless of gender. The problems are quite different, but IMO not that different in magnitude vs one’s capability to surmount them. TGTO: Thank god that’s over. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/348 "2024-09-03T01:14:22Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > TGTO: Thank god that’s over. Sing it, Sister! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/349 "2024-09-03T01:19:30Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > keep getting vibes from him that say that even though he’s married and has children, he’s an Incel at heart. That’s a good way of putting it. Incels don’t stop hating women just because they find a “female” who’ll give them the time of day. They’re still mysogynistic assholes who think they’re entitled to have sex with supermodels and constantly have paranoid fantasies about “Tyrone at the club” stealing “their” women from them. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/350 "2024-09-03T01:54:33Z")
Well put. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/351 "2024-09-03T04:51:28Z")
In other news: Republican Vice Presidential hopeful JD Vance had another stellar interaction with human beings at [checks notes] a UAW picket line in Toledo today. He shook a woman’s fist while greeting her in a way that should in no way be described as “weird” or “awkward” or “lip-bitingly cringey.” After the perfectly normal interaction with the woman, he immediately shoved his hands under his armpits and walked off camera, presumably so he could sniff his clammy, flop-sweat-covered fingers. More from today’s photo op in the clip below. > **[Muzammil VagoZz (@muzammilvagozz) on Threads](https://www.threads.net/@muzammilvagozz/post/C_blrmoS1pr?xmt=AQGz0b2L6sn1z7gUGL6m_ycnpZ5LYJMBLvVXdl5Ecz-cZQ)** > > There is a new clip of JD Vance everyday lmao Transcript: Vance: Nice to see you Marcy. Ha ha ha ha. Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur (D-Toledo): Good to see you…first time here? Vance: First time here. Yep. First time here. Kaptur: Thanks for coming. Vance: Of course. Kaptur: [Turning to Vance’s cameraman] All right, what can we do for you? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/352 "2024-09-03T04:57:41Z")
I’ll put the “awkward fist-grab” moment in an imbedded video for convenience; it’s part of a longer news broadcast but I’m starting the video at the point he has the “oh no I humaned wrong” glitch. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TzZv9jg7tLA/hqdefault.jpg "Sen. JD Vance, Rep. Marcy Kaptur visit UAW picket lines in Toledo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZv9jg7tLA&t=16s) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/353 "2024-09-03T05:11:30Z")
Best comments: “Three failed hand shakes!!” “The fat bearded guy sure moved fast!” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/354 "2024-09-03T09:33:34Z")
There’s nothing there. No passion, no empathy. He’s just a one-dimensional being ambling about. What’s on his sweatshirt? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/355 "2024-09-03T09:52:12Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > What’s on his sweatshirt? “Ohio State”. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/356 "2024-09-03T12:48:26Z")
Which is obvious pandering, but not exactly the best idea in Toledo (so close to Michigan). ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/357 "2024-09-03T12:51:10Z")
This nonentity in manform should have a permagrin on his stupid face. He’s having a grand adventure, flying all around and having his ass kissed, on the party’s dime. There really is zero pressure on him- win or lose he’s a rich senator who never dreamed of being in this situation. He was plucked from the obscurity to which he will hopefully return. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/358 "2024-09-03T13:19:57Z")
Maybe he can get one that says “Music ⚡ Band”. Same energy, except it’s “fellow humans”. [![](https://duet-cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0x0:1409x785/640x427/filters:focal(734x364:735x365):format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8846551/Screen_Shot_2017_07_13_at_1.09.20_PM.png) ](https://duet-cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0x0:1409x785/640x427/filters:focal(734x364:735x365):format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8846551/Screen_Shot_2017_07_13_at_1.09.20_PM.png) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/359 "2024-09-03T21:58:57Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Maybe he can get one that says “Music ⚡ Band”. “Hello to you normal people of which I am one as well, let us discuss the performance of the local sports team.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/360 "2024-09-03T23:57:36Z")
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