# JD Vance Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/421 "2024-09-11T23:16:17Z")
We now know what _really_ happened to Andy Kaufman. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/422 "2024-09-11T23:22:07Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In the future, when people look up irony in the dictionary, it’ll just be a photo of this tweet; > > [x.com](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1833948708360388977) Oh, good Lord. I was certain that the Tweeter was giving an unfair paraphrase of what Vance said. But no, that was a quote. You have got to be shitting me. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/423 "2024-09-12T01:24:47Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I was certain that the Tweeter was giving an unfair paraphrase of what Vance said. Ditto! He’s got to be trolling us. It’s right there in front of our faces, plain as day! He’s played the long game, starting years ago, never realizing how far it would someday take him! Only RFK Jr has him beat in the length of time he’s played the long game. But Vance has surpassed him as top scorer. Bravo, JD! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/424 "2024-09-12T01:34:18Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > We now know what _really_ happened to Andy Kaufman. Andy Kaufman “died” on May 16, 1984. Less than three months later, on August 2, JD Vance was born. [![](https://i0.wp.com/tridentconcepts.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Coincidence-i-think-not.jpg?fit=650%2C256&ssl=1) ](https://i0.wp.com/tridentconcepts.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Coincidence-i-think-not.jpg?fit=650%2C256&ssl=1) ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/425 "2024-09-12T02:37:13Z")
Well, I hope ol’ JD’s proud of himself and all the pain his bullshit has caused already: [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/us/trump-vance-aiden-clark-springfield-ohio.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.KE4.lv6c.SgM2ld\_7zzD1&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/us/trump-vance-aiden-clark-springfield-ohio.html?unlocked_article_code=1.KE4.lv6c.SgM2ld_7zzD1&smid=url-share) > **Grieving Ohio Father Tells Trump and Vance to Stop Talking About His Son** > Barely an hour before the debate the father of an 11-year-old Ohio boy killed when an immigrant’s minivan crashed into a school bus lashed out at Donald J. Trump and his running mate, JD Vance, calling them [“morally bankrupt”](https://www.youtube.com/live/S2v8-HIvvoU) politicians spreading hate at the expense of his son, Aiden. > The death of Aiden Clark, who was thrown from the bus after the minivan driver, who is Haitian, veered into oncoming traffic just over a year ago, shook residents of Springfield, a blue-collar town between Dayton and Columbus. > But it was not until Mr. Vance took note in July that the city was thrust into the contentious national immigration debate. > This week, Mr. Vance doubled down, repeating [scurrilous claims](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/us/politics/trump-vance-haitians-ohio.html) that people “who shouldn’t be in this country” were abducting and eating their neighbors’ pets in Springfield. Mr. Trump’s campaign [amplified](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/technology/trump-dead-cats-migrants-ohio.html?searchResultPosition=4) the baseless rumors, even after authorities debunked them. > “My son was not murdered,” he said. “He was accidentally killed by an immigrant from Haiti.” > “This tragedy is felt all over this community, the state and even the nation, but don’t spin this towards hate,” he said in his remarks at the commission meeting, which was live streamed. Note that these immigrants are here legally and have work visas. These politicians are actively igniting a powder keg in this community. Fuck them. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/426 "2024-09-12T02:55:48Z")
Stoking the fires of xenophobia and racism. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/427 "2024-09-12T06:11:39Z")
Can someone please explain to me what the heck does Andy Kaufman have to do with anything about Vance, Politics& Elections or even a discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/428 "2024-09-12T06:21:45Z")
Andy Kaufman’s style of comedy was largely based around trolling the audience. He would subvert the audience’s expectations by doing things like performing a dramatic reading of Great Expectations at a standup show, or by deliberately breaking script in a live TV performance and claiming to have a moral objection to the script, or by insisting on his opening act being himself in disguise as a vulgar lounge singer. The implication being made is that JD Vance is in fact an alias that has been assumed by Kaufman after his supposed death from cancer in 1984, and that he has spent the subsequent decades positioning himself to become the Republican vice presidential nominee so that he could make a public mockery of the entire process by presenting himself as being utterly clueless and incapable of espousing the party’s policy without outright exclaiming their hidden disdain for the general public. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/429 "2024-09-12T10:45:19Z")
Also, some of Kaufman’s later antics appeared to be a desperate attempt to stay relevant/noticed, which is an exact correlation to CouchBoy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/430 "2024-09-12T16:50:40Z")
It’s getting harder to believe that Vance isn’t just trolling us. > > ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/431 "2024-09-12T17:11:22Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You have got to be shitting me. No, they’re xitting you. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/432 "2024-09-12T17:54:30Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It’s getting harder to believe that Vance isn’t just trolling us. > > > then “America would be the most prosperous country in the world.” And he also takes a shot at those people who are notoriously opposed to making lots of money - Wall Street Banks. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/433 "2024-09-13T04:48:47Z")
I feel that Vance has become a nonentity in the campaign at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/434 "2024-09-13T04:51:57Z")
He’s gonna have to up his weird-game to compete with Donnie “don’t eat my kitteh” Trump. Or Donnie “concept of a plan” Trump. Come on JD! Wear underpants on your head at the VP debate! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/435 "2024-09-13T05:46:29Z")
LOL. JD Vance for semi-President! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/436 "2024-09-13T13:31:00Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I feel that Vance has become a nonentity in the campaign at this point I don’t know. He’s doing pretty well in the “completely self-unaware statements that are still at least comprehensible to normal people” category. It’s no “They’re eating the cats!”, but it’s solid work. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/437 "2024-09-13T14:26:00Z")
Most VPs are nonentities in most campaigns. They do some of the same touring and speaking, but to far less attention and typically zero adulation. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/438 "2024-09-13T22:33:18Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > He’s doing pretty well in the “completely self-unaware statements that are still at least comprehensible to normal people” category. It’s no “They’re eating the cats!”, but it’s solid work. Oops. > **[JD Vance Doubles Down on Evidence-Free Pet-Eating Story, Says He’s Also Heard...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/jd-vance-pet-eating-story-geese-abducted-and-slaughtered)** > > A winning strategy for sure. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/439 "2024-09-13T22:58:35Z")
Listening to WABC this morning they said they had scheduled post debate interviews with JD and Tulsi Gabbard. Neither are responding to calls or emails. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/440 "2024-09-13T23:02:26Z")
Laura Loomer is posting that if Kamala Harris is elected, the White House is going to smell like curry. Funny (not) she’s not griping about the VP mansion smelling like curry if Vance becomes VP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=23)