# JD Vance Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/501 "2024-09-17T01:36:50Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I wonder if Harris or Walz should make a stop as well.

I think they’re wiser than to get into that can of worms. It wouldn’t help them, or the residents, out.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/502 "2024-09-17T05:10:27Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I know Trump is visiting the town ( and haven’t they suffered enough?).

Serve him a hamburger with a flea collar in it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/503 "2024-09-17T05:11:54Z")

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I assume Trump is visiting because someone on his staff told him about the Tulsa race riots in order to get him to lay off the immigrant-bashing and he thought to himself “That sounds like a good idea”.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/504 "2024-09-17T15:19:45Z")

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I thought this amusing.

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_**Every time [JD Vance opens his mouth](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/15/vance-haitians-springfield-ohio-pets-false-claims/55e611d2-737b-11ef-9537-628fa451f775_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_4), a sinkhole opens and swallows 30 people whole.** I haven’t seen the people myself, but I know that something like this is happening. I keep getting calls from all kinds of people, all of them frantic, begging me to do anything I can to keep this story out there. I never get their names; it seems rude to inquire too minutely at such a stressful moment._

_I think this is my duty. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the volume of sinkholes opened daily by the words of JD Vance, then, by God, I will invent them. **Some of the details might not be exactly accurate. The part about the sinkhole, or the number of people who fall into it.** But I know that JD Vance opens his mouth and bad things follow, and it is my responsibility to make a story about that._

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/17/jd-vance-fake-stories-immigrants-haitians/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/17/jd-vance-fake-stories-immigrants-haitians/)

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/505 "2024-09-17T15:32:52Z")

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Thank you. Alexandra Petri is the greatest satirist of our time.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/506 "2024-09-17T15:37:19Z")

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She is a national goddamned treasure.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/507 "2024-09-17T19:11:18Z")

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LOL, you beat me to it! I was planning to use one of my gift links to share it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/508 "2024-09-17T20:13:59Z")

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Emo Goebbels is demanding that we apologize for calling out his bullshit.

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836109725907423453>

Credit where it’s due, though, he seems to have slightly more self-control than Rich Lowry.

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1836104721754698061>

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/509 "2024-09-17T20:16:54Z")

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It’s always someone else’s fault with these people, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/510 "2024-09-17T20:54:01Z")

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Bigly.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/511 "2024-09-17T21:10:19Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> But you can tell them that one is a Marxist? Which Trump did during the national debate. I don’t recall Harris calling Trump a fascist on that stage.

I just heard a clip on Nicole Wallace where Trump called _Kamala_ a fascist.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/512 "2024-09-17T21:14:14Z")

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"_… activates his neck frill …_

Why is she hogging all the words? Could she just leave us a few words?

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/513 "2024-09-17T21:15:06Z")

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/514 "2024-09-18T00:09:04Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@X](#):
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> > The American media has been lying and saying that Trump and I are inciting bomb threats

Every denial is a confession

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/515 "2024-09-18T00:53:39Z")

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Individual-ONE made his mark using the bury-'em-in-BS technique (yes, I know, “technique” is a far too flattering word) and Couchboy is trying to heave forward with same. It is not clear whether their stay-forefront spider-on-a-hotplate dance is benfitting them, because my inclination would be to respond with something like “_that does not even merit comment_” (as Ms Harris did in the Dana Bash interview). If people actually listen to your words, economy is often the better strategery.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/516 "2024-09-18T03:52:55Z")

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If Vance doesn’t end up getting sued and taken to the cleaners for this, Alex Jones will actually have a legitimate complaint that he was unfairly singled out.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/517 "2024-09-18T03:55:25Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> > But you can tell them that one is a Marxist? Which Trump did during the national debate. I don’t recall Harris calling Trump a fascist on that stage.
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> I just heard a clip on Nicole Wallace where Trump called _Kamala_ a fascist.

Seth Meyers, in his _A Closer Look_, segment tonight, featured a [compilation](https://youtu.be/VGgghqAFHJI?si=V_y0AN-IEMgS1bLX) of Trump calling Biden and Harris fascists, among other things. The relevant part starts at 1:44 after the clip starts. I’m on my phone, and haven’t figured out how to start it at the appropriate time yet.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/518 "2024-09-18T04:10:53Z")

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Isn’t creating stories yet another version of alternative facts?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/519 "2024-09-18T04:14:40Z")

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“Creating stories” is a euphemism. Stephen King creates stories. JD Vance lies.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/520 "2024-09-18T15:00:03Z")

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Similar to his remark about out-of-touch billionaires (intended to reference to Taylor Swift, but accidentally also referring to his own running mate), Vance states "we cannot tell the American people that one candidate is a fascist and if he’s elected it is going to be the end of American democracy” without apparently noticing that his own running mate often refers to Harris as a fascist:

> **[Analysis: Vance warns calling a candidate a ‘fascist’ can lead to violence...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/politics/jd-vance-kamala-harris-fascist/index.html)**
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> In the wake of the apparent assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump on Sunday, Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance, argued in a speech in Georgia on Monday that the two recent attempts to kill Trump are evidence that “the left...

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