# JD Vance Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/601 "2024-09-24T17:01:37Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > In college one of my roommates rowed on the crew team. No exageration his normal breakfast was a dozen eggs and several slices of toast w PB, plus a box of cereal and a quart of milk. They showed this amount of eating in the film _The Boys in the Boat_ – also about rowing. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/602 "2024-09-24T17:26:01Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > For centuries governments have missed out on this treasure trove of literally free money, because they thought that we, the consumer, would ultimately have to pay for the tariff. Thankfully, our nation’s most brilliant economist, Donald Trump, has pulled the veil from our eyes and we can now fund so many wonderful projects with trillions of dollars given to us by other countries. When the folks at Breitbart are confronted with this question, they claim that it forced China to devalue its currency, thus paying for the tariffs. And yes, I do know that’s a dumb explanation. And yes, I do know that a devalued Chinese currency would increase imports. But they do not seem to know this. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/603 "2024-09-24T20:29:44Z")
If kids that age were to eat that much protein daily, their kidneys would probably be in for some serious damage before long. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/604 "2024-09-25T02:15:04Z")
So… in the likely case Mr. Vance is _still_ a Senator come next Jan. 21, do we foresee possibly someone in the Ohio GOP challenging him in '28? Or would it have faded into the past by then? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/605 "2024-09-25T02:25:49Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And his plan to reduce food prices is to put tariffs on imported food. So no more cheap rice. Hopefully all the extra money we’ll pay for imported foie gras and Roquefort will bring down the cost of eggs. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/606 "2024-09-26T00:54:19Z")
The best epithet for Vance, highlighting his phoniness: Hillbilli Vanilli ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/607 "2024-09-26T01:11:16Z")
I 💗 this. Also, I heard on the news tonight that Senator Couchfucker has been intensively prepping for his debate with Tim Walz. I don’t think you can cram how to be an empathetic human being. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/608 "2024-09-26T02:05:28Z")
He’s already said that his debate prep consists of talking with this guy he knows who lies a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/609 "2024-09-26T09:57:37Z")
How can Walz or anyone prep to go against total assholes, though? Do their mock opponents just start saying shocking things to get them ready? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/610 "2024-09-26T13:20:19Z")
i’m thinking more like looking at interview tapes, videos, speeches; then acting it out. i’m sure walz will do well. the important thing is to listen to what vance says and point out the weird. i beleve walz has that down to a science. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/611 "2024-09-26T16:23:45Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > How can Walz or anyone prep to go against total assholes, though? Do their mock opponents just start saying shocking things to get them ready? Yes, they do. Or at least Kamala’s mock debater (who also prepped Hillary) did. In the brief piece I saw, they said he would interrupt, insult, lie, etc. Helps the candidate to think on their feet over such childishness. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/612 "2024-09-26T16:56:54Z")
I’ve seen a minor MAGA conspiracy that Walz abuses his son Gus, and my mind flooded with all of the horrible things that could be shouted to throw an opponent off of their game. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/613 "2024-09-26T20:46:43Z")
Ken Klippenstein is publishing the “Iran Data Hack” of Trump’s campaign… or at least parts of it. Here is the research on JD Vance: > **[Read the JD Vance Dossier](https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/read-the-jd-vance-dossier)** > > We’re publishing the supposed Iran-hacked document. Here’s why. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/614 "2024-09-27T21:52:06Z")
The rules are out for the VP debate. I want to know why Trump couldn’t have a countdown clock? And I dunno about chaos. Vance, for all of his many faults, isn’t Trump. > **[The Walz-Vance V.P. Debate Rules Are Out—and They Guarantee Chaos](https://newrepublic.com/post/186464/tim-walz-jd-vance-vp-vice-president-debate-rules)** > > CBS News has released all the details on the first (and only) vice presidential debate with Tim Walz and J.D. Vance. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/615 "2024-09-27T22:00:02Z")
It looks like there was a countdown clock on the Harris/Trump CNN debate. I remember seeing this pic taken from the back of the stage: > **[Photos: The Harris-Trump debate | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/gallery/debate-trump-harris-photos/index.html)** > > Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump faced each other in a presidential debate Tuesday at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. I’m also not sure why the rules have anything to do with chaos. Seems like a pretty regular setup for a debate. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/616 "2024-09-27T22:12:43Z")
Yeah, I just sort of grabbed the first article I found that listed the rules. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/617 "2024-09-27T23:23:26Z")
Vance is going to come into this debate with absolute rock bottom expectations. I am afraid that unless Walz does to him what Kamala did to Trump he is going to get the win. This is a tall order as he is still a Yale Law grad, not a senile fool who never had two braincells to rub together at his peak. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/618 "2024-09-27T23:25:47Z")
On the other hand Vance was a corporal, and Walz was a master sargeant. Knowing how to handle upstart E-3/E-4’s is pretty much the job destription of a master sargeant. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/619 "2024-09-27T23:30:17Z")
Not to mention a much more experienced politician. And decent human being, which won’t count for as much as it should. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/620 "2024-09-28T00:06:29Z")
And a high school teacher/coach. This guy can handle it all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=32)