# JD Vance Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/681 "2024-10-01T06:20:17Z")
There’s a non-zero chance at this point that a second Trump administration could result in Elon Musk becoming a dictator. And that terrifies me more than Trump does. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/682 "2024-10-01T06:37:59Z")
Ph shit, I may not sleep tonight. How did we get to this? ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/683 "2024-10-01T13:50:55Z")
Here’s a link to the story. Jaydee’s beliefs are pretty scary. > **[Maddow: JD Vance wants to destroy anything conservatives can't control ](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/maddow-jd-vance-wants-to-destroy-anything-conservatives-can-t-control-220525637945)** > > Rachel Maddow looks at the conservative history of attacking universities for exposing students to ideas that conservatives don't like, and highlights JD Vance in his own words discussing ideas for punishing universities and well as businesses that... > Rachel Maddow looks at the conservative history of attacking universities for exposing students to ideas that conservatives don’t like, and highlights JD Vance in his own words discussing ideas for punishing universities and well as businesses that he sees as being on the wrong side of the culture war he is waging. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/684 "2024-10-01T16:45:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In 2023, Vance said the reason people are having fewer children is because of those darn seatbelt laws. Well in all fairness to Vance, it is hard to get it on in the back seat of a Camero when there is a damn child seat there. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/685 "2024-10-01T17:03:50Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Unless one of them loses it entirely, I doubt this debate will make much difference; and I don’t think either of them will do that. However – in this election, even a little difference may turn out to be a big difference. I agree with all that. However, I suspect that of all things happening on October 1st, it’s the dockworker strike that will affect the election most. (That’s assuming that the inevitable rise in prices that results will hit before November 5th.) Developments today in the Middle East may matter more than the debate, too, to the extent that Republicans succeed in tying them to Harris. (Not that any sane person believes Harris can dictate events there, but then millions of voters aren’t operating on a basis of sanity.) The debate will likely encourage Trump/Vance voters to think that Trump and Vance are wonderful, and encourage Harris/Walz voters to think that Harris and Walz are wonderful. Influence on “undecided” people is likely to be minimal. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/686 "2024-10-04T17:36:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I suspect that of all things happening on October 1st, it’s the dockworker strike that will affect the election most. Fortunately, the dockworkers are back on the job, insuring that adequate ketchup supplies are delivered to Merde-a-Lardo. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/687 "2024-10-04T19:29:32Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Fortunately, the dockworkers are back on the job, insuring that adequate ketchup supplies are delivered to Merde-a-Lardo. 😆 Well, yes. But it could have been bad. Anything that stops even a few hundred people from voting Democratic is bad. This will be back in the news before the Inauguration as the strike is only suspended, until 15 January. (It’s possible that if a contract is negotiated by then, there won’t be a strike.) Anything that would give retailers an excuse to raise prices could have affected the election. As it was, a three-day stoppage isn’t unusual–it happens with weather events all the time. So retailers really won’t have that excuse. As for JD Vance having an excuse to try to turn the 3-days-off into Something Huge That Kamala Did: he’s going to need more creativity than I believe he possesses. > **[The US could have seen shortages and higher retail prices if a dockworkers...](https://apnews.com/article/longshoremen-strike-holidays-shortages-inflation-c195bedec63d41afcec3c942ebb27e93)** > > The union representing striking U.S. dockworkers has reached a deal to suspend the strike until Jan. 15 to provide time to negotiate a new contract. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/688 "2024-10-04T19:34:59Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > As for JD Vance having an excuse to try to turn the 3-days-off into Something Huge That Kamala Did: he’s going to need more creativity than I believe he possesses. “It was all a pantomime show! Commie Commala got her “Union” buddies to fake strike, so that Good And Proper Americans would panic at the prospect of a Failed Christmas, but then heave a sigh of relief and vote Demoncratic after Kommie Kommala Khristmas-hater “solved” the problem she’d created in the first place!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/689 "2024-10-04T19:38:43Z")
He’ll owe you a fee if he decides to try that one. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/690 "2024-10-04T20:48:07Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Anything that stops even a few hundred people from voting Democratic is bad. What, like a hurricane? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/691 "2024-10-05T03:02:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > He’ll owe you a fee if he decides to try that one. “You stole that talking point from a message board.” “The rules were that you guys weren’t going to fact check…” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/692 "2024-10-05T03:16:36Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > fact check I don’t care about the fact check, so long as I get a fat check. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/693 "2024-10-05T19:00:31Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > What, like a hurricane? Well, hurricanes are always bad, for everybody. (I guess roofers like having extra business, maybe, but…) But as has been noted here and elsewhere on the board, elected Republicans are saying with a straight face that Democrats control the weather. There’s not much one can say to that, to someone who accepts and believes it (other than 'did you forget to take your meds today?) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/694 "2024-10-12T00:28:30Z")
I’m at a loss for words. JD Vance, on a live Facebook thing, thinking if he turns his camera upside down, it will correct for the backward letters behind him. This fucking idiot could be president. I’m sorry for the twitter link, but it’s all I got. > ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/695 "2024-10-12T00:30:55Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > JD Vance, on a live Facebook thing, thinking if he turns his camera upside down, it will correct for the backward letters behind him. He was just trying to make the words look like they were in Russian. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/696 "2024-10-12T01:03:12Z")
Jonah Ryan would be proud. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/697 "2024-10-12T01:21:13Z")
Omg. Even me the least most phone literate person I know, knew how to do that. My 11 yo grandkid showed me. Doesn’t Vance know anyone, have a publicist, a normal kid who knows this. Gah!! Stupid is, as stupid does. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/698 "2024-10-12T01:59:30Z")
The NYTimes is publishing an interview with Vance tomorrow. No idea why not today except to make sure it’s released on a day when no one will read it. In it, Vance refuses to admit that Trump lost the election in 2020, and states outright that he would not have certified the results. I’m not linking, because someone always comes in to gripe that they don’t have a subscription. Just Google it, there are tons of articles about it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/699 "2024-10-12T02:08:22Z")
They talked to the interviewer on CNN and show snippets of her questioning him. He totally will not answer the direct question at least 4 times. Keeps trying to move to something else. I have to say she wouldn’t take his bait. Still he didn’t answer. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/700 "2024-10-12T03:00:43Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I’m at a loss for words. Good luck, USA. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=36)