# JD Vance Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 19, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892 "2024-08-19T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/701 "2024-10-12T03:07:18Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > SNIP > I’m not linking, because **someone always comes in to gripe that they don’t have a subscription.** Just Google it, there are tons of articles about it. You do realize you can share the article as a gift link, right? I do it all the time. I never use up all 10 of my gift links in a month. [Anyone who wants to read the NYT article about the Vance interview can do it here.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/us/politics/vance-trump-2020-election-results.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Rk4.8ocq.nwPpK11HK7ly&smid=url-share) (GIFT LINK) I will share the actual interview when they put it up. (Bolding in the above quote is mine.) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/702 "2024-10-12T03:13:25Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > You do realize you can share the article as a gift link, right? Apparently, even some gift links require the user of the free link to still set up an account in order to use it; I’ve shared gift links to WaPo articles regularly, and I’ve had fellow Dopers indicate that they “can’t” read the link, because they don’t want to give the Post their email address. Sometimes you can’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/703 "2024-10-12T03:15:53Z")
I’m pretty certain NYT gift links don’t work that way. I know the WaPo ones do. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/704 "2024-10-12T03:26:12Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > You do realize you can share the article as a gift link, right? Yes, of course, and someone always says they can’t read it, and to post another source (instead of simply googling themselves). (Sometimes they won’t click because they don’t want to generate traffic to a site, like to X.) I read it today on WaPo, which people really hate because it makes you give an email. This info is available all over the web, so people can find a link that works for them. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/705 "2024-10-12T03:30:14Z")
I post NYT gift links all the time and label them as such. I’ve never had someone say they can’t read the article and in fact have had people thank me for sharing it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I know what you are talking about with links to X and WaPo articles. My comment is limited to NYT articles. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/706 "2024-10-12T04:44:22Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > My comment is limited to NYT articles. And the article I read was in WaPo. So people are welcome to Google whatever link works for them. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/707 "2024-10-12T04:56:40Z")
Well, I saw it on MSNBC. He’s a slimey, little, sleezy, prick. He refused to answer the question 4 times. He kept bringing up completely unrelated garbage, and told her he would answer her question, if she answered his bs, “questions.” I seriously don’t want this mendacious, bottom dwelling, vermin, anywhere near the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/708 "2024-10-12T05:26:55Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > He kept bringing up completely unrelated garbage, and told her he would answer her question, if she answered his bs, “questions.” “Sir, this is a news interview. Me ask, you answer.” ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/709 "2024-10-12T05:29:07Z")
In the clip I saw, he was going on about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Guess what, JD? No one cares about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Sure it would have been great for Trump if he could have another version of the Comey Surprise that won him the first election. But nobody cares about Hunter Biden enough for this to work again. Get some new material. Also, while we’re on the subject of stories being “suppressed”, I haven’t heard much about Trump’s Epstein connection lately. Why isn’t the media talking about that one? Elon Musk was doing “kung fu” with Ghislaine Maxwell _as if either of them actually know kung fu_! Well JD, your schtick is how you’re all about the children… your boss appears to be a child predator and hangs around with other child predators… should the news talk about that? Is that more important than Hunter Biden’s laptop maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/710 "2024-10-12T05:39:32Z")
Your first post about this references the interview being printed in the NYT without mentioning anything about WaPo. Thus my confusion about what you feel people complain about regarding links. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/711 "2024-10-12T10:14:18Z")
It’s not really suppressed, but it’s not out there like it should be: the whole Stern interview wherein he’s confessing to sleazing into the dressing room of his teen beauty pageant. It’s his very fucking voice. That thing should be on a continuous loop. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/712 "2024-10-12T11:51:45Z")
CNN reports on the interview, with clips. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kUe1TOmAtaE/maxresdefault.jpg "Vance repeatedly refuses to say if he believes Trump lost 2020 election") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUe1TOmAtaE) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/713 "2024-10-12T13:59:53Z")
The matching blue suits and red ties his minions wear are so stupid and “love me, daddy.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/714 "2024-10-12T14:14:50Z")
As promised [here is a gift link to the NYT interview with JD Vance.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/magazine/jd-vance-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Rk4.3wc7.wKFXaTFVXUJy&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&tgrp=cpy) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/715 "2024-10-12T18:05:17Z")
Seems like the best use of Vance would be to make him explain every crazy thing trump says. Who cares what he thinks, have him interpret trump. It would make them both look sick. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/716 "2024-10-12T21:01:15Z")
Thanks for those links, @Kolak_of_Twilo ! Vance, as one would expect, was slick and fake. The usual dodges—“you’re repeating a slogan”; “you answer my question and I’ll answer yours” [oh, sure!]; “we’re focused on the future”—were wielded with Vance’s customary stiff AI-affect. I expect Donald was pleased, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/717 "2024-10-13T03:44:48Z")
I doubt anything will come of this: > **[Trump campaign worked with Musk’s X to keep leaked JD Vance file off platform](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/12/x-twitter-jd-vance-leaked-file)** > > Journalist who published vetting document on Republican running mate was kicked off site formerly known as Twitter > Donald Trump’s presidential campaign worked with X to prevent information about JD Vance from being posted on the social media platform, a move that resulted in the journalist who revealed the information being kicked off the site, according to reports. > > The former president’s team contacted X, owned by the billionaire Trump backer Elon Musk, about a 271-page document compiled by his campaign to vet his running mate that was linked to by Ken Klippenstein, an independent journalist, the New York Times has reported. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/718 "2024-10-17T07:09:32Z")
Vance has stated that Donald Trump [did not lose the 2020 election](https://www.cnn.com/shorts/events-mw-cnn-shorts). ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/719 "2024-10-17T16:04:27Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Vance has stated that Donald Trump [did not lose the 2020 election](https://www.cnn.com/shorts/events-mw-cnn-shorts). When I click the link I get something about Liam Payne (One Direction singer that died yesterday) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892/720 "2024-10-17T16:07:02Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > When I click the link I get something about Liam Payne (One Direction singer that died yesterday) Here’s the correct link: > **[Vance says ‘no’ Trump did not lose the 2020 election | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/16/politics/vance-trump-2020-election-results/index.html)** > > Vice presidential candidate JD Vance said “no” former president Donald Trump did not lose the 2020 election “by the words” the Ohio Republican would use, when asked Wednesday what message it sends to independent voters that he has not directly... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-discussion-thread/1005892.md?page=37)