# JD Vance says that Nazis are discriminated against in Germany **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 15, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356 "2025-02-15T16:32:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/81 "2025-02-16T20:59:41Z")
A Clockwork Orangina. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/82 "2025-02-16T21:10:17Z")
Or… with a different pronunciation… A Neck Wattle Orangina. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/83 "2025-02-16T23:48:06Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Someday, someone will remember about expropriation and discover that Musk’s wealth is much more useful without Musk attached. But - but - expropriating things from White people is the _ultimate_ sin. Absolutely _nothing_ worse - in fact, just the mere whiff of it [guarantees you refugee status in America](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/addressing-egregious-actions-of-the-republic-of-south-africa/) in a way that, say, being a victim of outright genocide, climate disaster or narco death squads does not. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/84 "2025-02-17T00:02:21Z")
There’s a pretty common remedy for that, historically: find some way to shift the boundaries of whiteness to exclude him. There’s got to be some purity test he can fail, and if not, we can always brand him a Communist. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/85 "2025-02-17T00:04:36Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > find some way to shift the boundaries of whiteness to exclude him. Well, he _is_ African… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/86 "2025-02-17T00:06:30Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > But - but - expropriating things from White people is the _ultimate_ sin Nah, white people can rob each other as much as they want. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/87 "2025-02-17T01:31:16Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > With some really _wild_ commercials. 🙀 What The Ever-loving Fuck did I just watch??? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/88 "2025-02-17T01:43:13Z")
John Oliver, with his (I think) obsessively and overdone humanoid rat erotica would’ve been fapping to that. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/89 "2025-02-17T15:54:16Z")
Great. It’s in my browser history. It’s in my ISP’s records. I’m ruined. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/90 "2025-02-17T17:34:30Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > As has been noted, just how did Vance know what they did with their groceries after they left the store? And even if they did resell the sodas, isn’t that the sort of “can do pick yourself up by your bootstraps, entrepreneurial capitalist attitude” that conservatives are supposed to admire? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/91 "2025-02-17T17:45:49Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > And even if they did resell the sodas, isn’t that the sort of “can do pick yourself up by your bootstraps, entrepreneurial capitalist attitude” that conservatives are supposed to admire? I think the Trumpists would expect a cut of the profits from now on. Like kicking back to the local mob boss. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/92 "2025-02-18T17:42:51Z")
Nazis are being discriminated against? In _Germany_???!!!??? Hard to believe. In fact I _won’t_ believe it until the German government mandates that all Nazis wear a _Magen David_ patch on their clothing (I struggled to come up with an appropriate identification symbol, since the swastika is banned, so I thought that a symbol abhorrent to the Nazis might serve. Still, alternate suggestions are welcome). ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/93 "2025-02-18T18:29:14Z")
Shouldn’t Nazis be discriminated against everywhere just because they’re Nazis? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/94 "2025-02-18T19:39:30Z")
This is the only non-violent answer expected by decent people. Kinda like the KKK. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/95 "2025-02-18T19:58:14Z")
With Nazis, I don’t mind violent answers. Like driving them off a bridge with your bluesmobile. I hate MAGA Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/96 "2025-02-18T20:16:09Z")
Forget it, Jake. It’s Deutschland. [w/apologies to Elwood] ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/97 "2025-02-18T21:31:55Z")
Just want to say that strickly speaking, JD Vance is right for once. Technically, Nazis are discriminatedd against in Germany. Rightly so, and for good reason, though not enough. We will have to step it up. We need more Elwoods. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/98 "2025-02-24T08:40:29Z")
similar, Southern white racists said they were against “race-mixing” while sleeping with Black/Indian/Latin women ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/99 "2025-02-24T09:05:25Z")
I think that most people don’t have a completely consistent set of beliefs. Furthermore, most people in arguing against someone else’s beliefs assume that the person that they are arguing against has a consistent set of beliefs and that these beliefs can be derived from a small set of assumptions. This makes it seem like the belief system of most people is like the system of mathematics, where you can start with a small set of assumptions and gradually build a large set of theorems, each of which are consistent with each other. The problem is that most people’s thoughts don’t work that way. They have a large, varied, and inconsistent set of beliefs and frequently add new ones to the set, not always checking the consistency of the system. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356/100 "2025-02-24T18:18:35Z")
It’s worth noting that Eastern Kentucky–home of the very hillbillies he elegied about, including his grandparents’ home of Breathitt County–was utterly wrecked in a flood nine days ago. Vance hasn’t said a word about it. Too busy wrecking what’s left of our goodwill in Europe, I guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-says-that-nazis-are-discriminated-against-in-germany/1014356.md?page=6)