# JD Vance, Usha Vance, and Erika Kirk **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527 "2025-11-03T11:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/141 "2025-11-23T13:45:47Z")
He still thinks that Trump is America’s Hitler. He just never thought that was a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/142 "2025-11-23T14:39:51Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > calling Trump “America’s Hitler”? There are people for whom that constitutes high praise. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/143 "2025-11-23T20:26:52Z")
The wedding ring is a feature of western culture. She grew up in an immigrant household. The flap over Usha’s wedding ring seems similar to the one over Prince Harry’s LA Dodger cap. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/144 "2025-11-23T20:29:27Z")
But earlier photos of her show her wearing a wedding ring and surely she realizes the symbolism involved in no longer wearing it. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/145 "2025-11-23T20:35:33Z")
Maybe she doesn’t take it that seriously and forgot to put it on that morning. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/146 "2025-11-23T20:38:33Z")
That’s the story they’re going with. An article from [People.com](http://People.com) [says](https://people.com/usha-vance-seen-without-wedding-ring-addresses-split-rumors-11855222) > Amid the speculation, a spokesperson for the second lady — who is very private and rarely speaks with press — addressed the ringless appearance in a statement to PEOPLE. > > The spokesperson said that Usha is “a mother of three young children, who does a lot of dishes, gives lots of baths, and forgets her ring sometimes.” ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/147 "2025-11-23T20:44:47Z")
Like most cultures, traditional American wives never take off their wedding rings and sports fans never wear a cap for the opposing team. They are unwritten rules. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/148 "2025-11-23T20:48:26Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The spokesperson said that Usha is “a mother of three young children, who does a lot of dishes, gives lots of baths, and forgets her ring sometimes.” As if they don’t have people for that. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/149 "2025-11-23T21:19:13Z")
I think she’ll be out in public again soon enough and the world will find out whether ring on or ring off is her new normal. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/150 "2025-11-23T21:29:42Z")
If I was famous, and at the centre of some kind of controversy, there might be pictures of me writing, using my dominant right hand. But then there might be other pictures of me ‘throwing out the first pitch’ or whatever it’s called, using my left hand. They may build a conspiracy just around that seeming contradiction. People are complex and random and weird. Some things they do go against the majority expectation. ---
**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/151 "2025-11-23T22:33:12Z")
Apologies, since this is the pit I guess I can ask: are you the same GuanoLad whose comment I just read on an Adam Savage video? (Not a pitting of vance etc related comment) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/152 "2025-11-23T22:35:22Z")
Yes. I just wrote something about diets. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/153 "2025-11-25T13:59:17Z")
Erika was on some show talking about “the hug”, which I saw a clip of. She said she has always been a hugger and that’s all that was. I just mostly wanted to mention the outfit she was wearing. Boy howdy, that is one sexy suit. I’d wear that to the club. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/154 "2025-11-27T00:52:22Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Also, screwing up a quote like that is technically (AFAIK) misquoting another poster, and you have to be very careful about that, because you can be noted and warned for such a thing. Only if it’s clearly deliberate and malicious. Deliberate and light-hearted would be a mod note 99% of the time, and a clear accident like this wouldn’t even rate a mod note. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/155 "2025-11-27T00:56:48Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The spokesperson said that Usha is “a mother of three young children, who does a lot of dishes, gives lots of baths, and forgets her ring sometimes.” Just wait til they have to explain her leaving a club at 3am with Pete Davidson 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/156 "2025-11-27T01:07:49Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Broyhill was in Carol Merrill’s time. Probably JD Vance, too. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/157 "2025-11-27T01:30:28Z")
Good to know, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/158 "2025-11-27T01:41:59Z")
I am enjoying the “related / suggested” threads at the bottom. They’re mostly about the TV show _Trading Spouses_. Plus some other unfaithful fun. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/159 "2025-12-19T17:24:57Z")
Surely enough this happened. This whole thing is definitely about Vance trying to inherit the maga faithful via the memory of Charlie Kirk… [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/us/politics/erika-kirk-jd-vance-2028-election-endorsement.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/us/politics/erika-kirk-jd-vance-2028-election-endorsement.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527/160 "2025-12-19T21:48:40Z")
Yes, but La-Z-Boy couches have two things over both his wife and Charlie Kirk’s wife: 1 ) They have a “Lifetime Warranty”. 2 ) They vibrate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jd-vance-usha-vance-and-erika-kirk/1024527.md?page=9)