# Jeb Bush 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 12, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696 "2008-06-12T15:06:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/1 "2008-06-12T15:06:08Z")
I remember that even local press would sometimes run articles on how the Bushes were lining Jeb to be a presidential candidate sometime in the future. Heck, I read articles about some younger Bushes that were somewhat considered potential political material in the future. Did GWB effectively killed the Bush brand? Any chance there’ll be another Bush in the white house after GB I failed to get reelected and GB II went down in flames? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/2 "2008-06-12T15:20:09Z")
I’d be willing to bet that W not only killed a chance of anybody named Bush ever getting elected to major public office, but that he has also caused the sale of Bush’s Baked Beans to fall. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/3 "2008-06-12T15:23:37Z")
[QUOTE=Mighty\_Girl] Did GWB effectively killed the Bush brand? [/QUOTE] Gosh, I hope so. Jeb’s role in the Schiavo circus leads me to think he’d be no different from GW. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/4 "2008-06-12T15:32:13Z")
:eek: No. No. NOOOOOOOO!!! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/5 "2008-06-12T15:33:21Z")
Years and years from now, who knows. But upon leaving office, Jeb - who I’ve heard is the one who was believed to be a future President, not W - apparently told a journalist “no tengo futuro.” I think that made his view pretty clear. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/6 "2008-06-12T15:34:55Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] Years and years from now, who knows. But upon leaving office, Jeb - who I’ve heard is the one who was believed to be a future President, not W - apparently told a journalist “no tengo futuro.” I think that made his view pretty clear. [/QUOTE] No idea what that means literally, but Clinton insisted she wasn’t interested in running for President up until she did. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/7 "2008-06-12T15:38:08Z")
And to hijack my own thread: What would need to happen for people to think “Gee, I guess what we need is another Bush president”. I, for one, think the name Bush is poisoned. We have our own poisoned politicians here, people that would not get elected to dog-catcher running against Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/8 "2008-06-12T15:39:15Z")
[QUOTE=Bosstone] No idea what that means literally, but Clinton insisted she wasn’t interested in running for President up until she did. [/QUOTE] No tengo futuro = I have no future. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/9 "2008-06-12T15:42:35Z")
[QUOTE=Bosstone] No idea what that means literally, but Clinton insisted she wasn’t interested in running for President up until she did. [/QUOTE] [“I have no future.”](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E3D61630F931A35752C0A9619C8B63) And I believe that’s probably pretty candid assessment, whereas most people knew Clinton was lying. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/10 "2008-06-12T15:45:52Z")
The only way Jeb could elevate his chances to the level required to become president would be to commit fratricide. This act would, however, make him technically ineligible to become president. This solution of a situation denied by circumstance is what’s commonly referred to as a Catch 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/11 "2008-06-12T18:29:56Z")
I hear that Jeb! Bush is seriously thinking of changing his last name to Hitler in order to approve his chances of obtaining the presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/12 "2008-06-12T18:59:03Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] The only way Jeb could elevate his chances to the level required to become president would be to commit fratricide. This act would, however, make him technically ineligible to become president. This solution of a situation denied by circumstance is what’s commonly referred to as a Catch 2012. [/QUOTE] No – if he were convicted of fratricide, he might be ineligible to vote. However, he would still be eligible to run and to be elected as president. [Eugene Debs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Debs) ran for president, and received 3.4% of the popular vote, in 1920 while in prison convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/13 "2008-06-12T19:17:58Z")
[QUOTE=Mighty\_Girl] And to hijack my own thread: What would need to happen for people to think “Gee, I guess what we need is another Bush president”. [/QUOTE] A terrorist attack. Remember when Bush was president? He kept us safe after 9/11. What we need is another Bush. Emotion rules a democracy―not logic and rationality. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/14 "2008-06-13T02:11:06Z")
“Jeb Bush 2012” because how many times can Florida screw the whole country? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/15 "2008-06-13T02:16:25Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d be willing to bet that W not only killed a chance of anybody named Bush ever getting elected to major public office, but that he has also caused the sale of Bush’s Baked Beans to fall. Women shaving off their pubic hair? That was him too. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/16 "2008-06-13T02:20:32Z")
> [@](#): > > A terrorist attack. > > Remember when Bush was president? He kept us safe after 9/11. What we need is another Bush. The fact that more Americans were killed by terrorists during Bush’s administration than during the administrations of every other President combined isn’t sufficient reason to say that Bush failed on that issue? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/17 "2008-06-13T02:54:32Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d be willing to bet that W not only killed a chance of anybody named Bush ever getting elected to major public office, but that he has also caused the sale of Bush’s Baked Beans to fall. > [@](#): > > The only way Jeb could elevate his chances to the level required to become president would be to commit fratricide. This act would, however, make him technically ineligible to become president. This solution of a situation denied by circumstance is what’s commonly referred to as a Catch 2012. > [@](#): > > I hear that Jeb! Bush is seriously thinking of changing his last name to Hitler in order to approve his chances of obtaining the presidency. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear I just walked in on a Carson monologue. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/18 "2008-06-13T03:21:38Z")
[QUOTE=The Tao’s Revenge] “Jeb Bush 2012” because how many times can Florida screw the whole country? [/QUOTE] That’s America’s wang, son, it screws as many times as it wants to! Someone thinks that was not a joke and approves the sentiment. That guy will vote for Jeb. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/19 "2008-06-13T04:27:24Z")
[QUOTE=The Tao’s Revenge] “Jeb Bush 2012” because how many times can Florida screw the whole country? [/QUOTE] Being shaped like a penis, it’s Florida’s job. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696/20 "2008-06-13T04:58:48Z")
the Florida keys look just like ejaculate 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-2012/452696.md?page=2)