# Jeb Bush campaign for POTUS thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 16, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672 "2015-06-16T13:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/21 "2015-06-17T02:04:15Z")
Democrats probably have an advantage with low-information citizens, but that’s not the same as an advantage with low-information voters, since most low-information folks don’t vote. Democrats have a broader base, but Republicans are better at mobilizing their base. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/22 "2015-06-17T13:50:20Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > So, he’s running on his record. Bad move, Jeb, says this Floridian. His track record on education, yet. See [here](http://www.salon.com/2015/06/17/everything_you_need_to_know_about_jeb_bushs_dangerous_education_agenda/). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/23 "2015-06-17T13:51:21Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Democrats probably have an advantage with low-information citizens, but that’s not the same as an advantage with low-information voters, since most low-information folks don’t vote. Yeah, well, the GOP’s main base appears to be Tea Partiers these days. High-information voters/citizens they **ain’t.** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/24 "2015-06-17T16:04:40Z")
Right, they’re low-information folks who do vote, like I said. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/25 "2015-06-17T17:12:39Z")
I watched some of his announcement, only because I also live in Florida and they just assume that we care what he does and my TV was on a local station. Rubio didn’t even get as much press when he announced and he currently holds a political office in this state. Anyway, I laughed the hardest at his comment that he wasn’t one of the “pampered Washington elite”, just because he doesn’t live in Washington doesn’t mean he doesn’t qualify as pampered Washington elite - unless he just meant he wasn’t swaddled in Pampers, his mom used Huggies. He must continue to delude himself into thinking that he won his first gubernatorial election on something other than his family name. He doesn’t put his last name on his campaign posters not because he doesn’t want people to think he’s running on his name, everyone knows full well he’s a Bush, he just wants them to know which one he is. I also realized that everything he was saying could easily be said by any other candidate in any other party. Basically, it was all soundbyte bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/26 "2015-06-17T17:15:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That advantage belongs to the GOP in most races – what makes Clinton different? Sorry that wasn’t clear in my original post. I think what’s different in a Clinton vs. Bush race is the names. The Clinton brand is better. Clinton had a more successful presidency than either Bush, and a much much more successful presidency than the more recent Bush who was there for 8 years. To a low-information voter, the question will boil down to which administration would I rather relive, Clinton’s or Bush’s (where the latter will be some mashed up amalgam of both Bushes, with Jr. constituting somewhere north of 70% of the weight based on recency and tenure.) Sure, some low-information voters will still decide Bush because of abortion or guns or whatever, but the success of the Clinton economy will weigh heavily with quite a few. ---
**Author:** ![2ManyTacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@2ManyTacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ManyTacos)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/27 "2015-06-17T17:39:36Z")
I really don’t know who the Hell Jeb! thinks he’ll appeal to. **Nobody** looks back fondly on the presidency of his brother W, and only **some** people have fond memories of Bush 41. Like another poster said, peoples’ opinion of Jeb! will be an amalgamation of the past two Bush administrations, which are (basically) universally derided. Clinton doesn’t have the same problem because the Clinton _brand_ is worlds better than the Bush fiasco. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/28 "2015-06-17T18:41:02Z")
Pretty sure he stole the exclamation point from Lamar! Alexander’s old posters. We all know how well that worked. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/29 "2015-06-17T18:46:06Z")
> [@2ManyTacos](#): > > I really don’t know who the Hell Jeb! thinks he’ll appeal to. **Nobody** looks back fondly on the presidency of his brother W, and only **some** people have fond memories of Bush 41. Like another poster said, peoples’ opinion of Jeb! will be an amalgamation of the past two Bush administrations, which are (basically) universally derided. > > Clinton doesn’t have the same problem because the Clinton _brand_ is worlds better than the Bush fiasco. Offhand, I’d say Republican establishment types who aren’t sure if they would be comfortable with Rubio, think Perry’s a dunce, that Santorum and Walker couldn’t win, dislike Paul’s lack of saber-rattling, etc. I’m not seeing anyone else whom the moneyed class is going to trust. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/30 "2015-06-17T19:42:52Z")
[Jeb says . . . something . . . about Social Security.](http://www.salon.com/2015/06/17/jeb_is_terrible_at_politics_part_we%e2%80%99ve_lost_count_his_dumbest_words_yet_about_social_security/)😕 ---
**Author:** ![2ManyTacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@2ManyTacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ManyTacos)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/31 "2015-06-19T21:47:50Z")
This is golden. Apparently there are just a lot of things that Jeb! [does not know.](http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122092/does-jeb-bush-know-anything) ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/32 "2015-06-20T03:11:45Z")
Well, he kind of has this one on climate change partially right … “I’m a skeptic. I’m not a scientist. I think the science has been politicized.” He’s definitely not a scientist and it has been politicized but not by actual scientists. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/33 "2015-06-20T13:38:59Z")
[Jeb! takes a stand](http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2015/06/people-of-faith-must-come-together-jeb-bush-says-after-charleston-shooting.html) on American religious diversity and tolerance, following the latest mass shooting: > [@](#): > > “In times of great national mourning, people of faith, all of us, must come together and at least reflect on this and fortify our strength,\*\* love Christ,\*\* love of God, to be able to continue to go forth. This has had a big impact on me.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/34 "2015-06-20T15:36:04Z")
I did not know much about Jeb other than what I had read. Had not really seen him to any extent. I was told, for instance, that he’s “the smart one”. That he’s the guy who should have been carrying the torch for his family. But I’m finding him nothing but underwhelming. He looks tired. He has no charisma. And he wasn’t prepared to answer the question about his brother and Iraq? Really??? Maybe he’s just getting started and we haven’t seen the real fireball yet, but so far he’s a big YAWN for me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/35 "2015-06-21T17:23:35Z")
That’s kind of refreshing, in a way. His brother thought he knew lots of things and look how that turned out. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/36 "2015-06-22T13:10:49Z")
> [@2ManyTacos](#): > > This is golden. > > Apparently there are just a lot of things that Jeb! [does not know.](http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122092/does-jeb-bush-know-anything) His brother was cocksure about anything and everything. I’d prefer a guy who admits that he doesn’t know than one who never does so. To be fair to Jeb, these are cherry picked items and there are probably more quotes where he does indeed voice an opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/37 "2015-06-22T14:43:47Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > His brother was cocksure about anything and everything. I’d prefer a guy who admits that he doesn’t know than one who never does so. To be fair to Jeb, these are cherry picked items and there are probably more quotes where he does indeed voice an opinion. They might be cherry-picked, but that list does have the links to articles that gives the context for those quotes, and they don’t generally help. But it’s true you could probably make a list like that for a lot of politicians. I’ve certainly heard many say “I’m not a scientist” in order to dance around the issue about global warming. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/38 "2015-06-28T19:07:21Z")
Leaked emails between Jeb Bush and his campaign logo designer: [http://aboveaverage.com/leaked-e-mail-between-jeb-bush-and-his-graphic-designer/](http://aboveaverage.com/leaked-e-mail-between-jeb-bush-and-his-graphic-designer/) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/39 "2015-06-28T19:17:06Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Leaked emails between Jeb Bush and his campaign logo designer: [http://aboveaverage.com/leaked-e-mail-between-jeb-bush-and-his-graphic-designer/](http://aboveaverage.com/leaked-e-mail-between-jeb-bush-and-his-graphic-designer/) What about them? What can you tell me to encourage me to click on a website I’ve never heard of and don’t know if I can trust? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-campaign-for-potus-thread/722672/40 "2015-06-30T23:42:16Z")
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