# Jeb Bush - I have a hard time believing that you're actually a human being. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266 "2004-04-10T02:34:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/1 "2004-04-10T02:34:16Z")
[I have no words.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3076557/) At least, none that don’t involve THROWING KNIVES AT JEB BUSH. ---
**Author:** ![NotMrKnowItAll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6bbea6/32.png) [@NotMrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotMrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/2 "2004-04-10T02:45:20Z")
I’m so goddamn glad I left Florida. Life has little or no value there. ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/3 "2004-04-10T02:46:36Z")
You know that if Bush is re-elected in '04, this guy is a likely canidate for '08, right? Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/4 "2004-04-10T02:51:15Z")
Evil really does run in that family, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/5 "2004-04-10T02:51:27Z")
:eek: Wow. I’m a pro lifer, and not even I agree with that. Main stream pro life people believe that if the woman’s life is in danger, than an abortion is justifiable. This article shows Jeb to be a fanatic, and while people are free to be fanatics, when a fanatic is in power, it frightens me because then they have the authority do things just like this ☹ I hope something happens soon, or the woman’s probable death will be on his hands, and even though I don’t know him, I’ll take a guess that he won’t feel bad about it because he believes that he’s doing “The right thing” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/6 "2004-04-10T02:52:13Z")
> [@nameless](#): > > You know that if Bush is re-elected in '04, this guy is a likely canidate for '08, right? > > Just saying. I’m trying not to think about that. Hell, I’m trying not to think about the prospects of Bush being re-elected period. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/7 "2004-04-10T02:54:47Z")
You do realize that’s an old news story, right? Not that that makes him any less an ogre, but I just thought I’d point out that there’s been a resolution. “J.D.S.” _was_ appointed a guardian and that guardian decided it was in “J.D.S.'s” best interest to carry the pregnancy to term. [She gave birth to “Baby Girl S”](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/01/national/main570970.shtml) sometime in August last year. But hey, we only have our stupid, sorryassed selves to blame – we put that sick fuck back in office for a 2nd term, which doesn’t expire until January, 2007. Maybe next time we’ll learn. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/8 "2004-04-10T02:57:31Z")
See, it’s shit like this that gives lie to the old, “We don’t have any need for feminism anymore!” Um, stuff like this proves we DO! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/9 "2004-04-10T03:04:33Z")
I’m just wondering why you brought this up (except to piss all over Jeb\*) The case was over a long time ago. Jeb’s action (or inaction) was thrown out by a judge. > [@](#): > > Judge Richard B. Orfinger wrote in his majority opinion. “We find no Florida statute or case law that has determined a foetus to be a person Rather, the opposite is true.” The baby was born in August of last year with no complications. [This link](http://www.awares.org/pkgs/news/news.asp?showItemID=341&board=&bbcode=&profileCode=§ion=) has a lot more up to date information - This isn’t necessarily a bad idea ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/10 "2004-04-10T03:05:39Z")
Or, indeed, what **Shayna** said. ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/11 "2004-04-10T03:14:13Z")
\*Tentacle Monster posts a sign-- PISS ON JEB: $5.00 Line forms behind me! ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/12 "2004-04-10T03:16:51Z")
(throws Tentacle a 50) Keep the change. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/13 "2004-04-10T03:32:24Z")
Dear Og. I don’t know what is more heinous: a severly autisic woman who is raped, impregnated and forced to undergo something that she is in now way shape or form able to really handle. The goverment gets involved and just does the wrong thing over all and farks up everything. Or the fact the monster that raped her was a 75 year old man. I am going to have nightmares tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/14 "2004-04-10T04:19:38Z")
Another pro-lifer who also thinks he went too far. Turns out both the mother and baby lived, which is the best possible outcome, but he took a terrible chance. I hope the little boy is in a loving home, the mother is being looked after ditto, and the rapist is in a prison in the Everglades with no mosquito netting. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/15 "2004-04-10T04:53:31Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > I hope the. . . rapist is in a prison in the Everglades with no mosquito netting. Nope. [Two court-appointed doctors found him incompetent to stand trial](http://www.sptimes.com/2003/10/26/State/Suspect_in_rape_of_re.shtml), saying he is incapable of understanding court proceedings due to dementia. [His wife](http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/8334112.htm?1c) (the owner of the facility where J.D.S. was living) is awaiting trial on a felony charge of negligence. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/16 "2004-04-10T05:59:26Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > Turns out both the mother and baby lived, which is the best possible outcome You bet it is! So what’s the everyone bitching about on this thread?😕 > [@nameless](#): > > You know that if Bush is re-elected in '04, this guy is a likely canidate for '08, right? Excellent!:)🆒 ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/17 "2004-04-10T07:10:31Z")
> [@nameless](#): > > You know that if Bush is re-elected in '04, this guy is a likely canidate for '08, right? Which is why it’s imperative to train eveery man, woman, and child with this one simple fact: **If the candidate’s name is “Bush,” DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM!** Hell, just to be safe, don’t vote for any Republicans, either. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/18 "2004-04-10T07:21:43Z")
I know I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again: People ask me, “Jon, why’d you move to St. Louis for college? Why didn’t you want to stay in nice, sunny Florida?” I point them to shit like this and they tend to clam up. I don’t know how my parents stand living there still. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/19 "2004-04-10T08:08:09Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > I hope the little boy is in a loving home … 'Twas a girl. ---
**Author:** ![Necro\_Romancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Necro\_Romancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necro_Romancer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266/20 "2004-04-10T10:26:26Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > You bet it is! So what’s the everyone bitching about on this thread? The fact that someone with the emotional and cognitive capacity of a **one year old** was not only raped and impregnated, but was forced to give birth despite her mental _and_ physical disabilities, putting her life at risk. I wonder how well a one year old recovers from being raped and giving birth. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-bush-i-have-a-hard-time-believing-that-youre-actually-a-human-being/239266.md?page=2)