# Jeb requests DA probe of M. Schiavo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838 "2005-06-25T21:47:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/81 "2005-07-08T16:56:32Z")

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In my mind, the thing that proves Michael Schiavo’s innocence the most is that he continued to fight for what he believed Terri wanted. If he were trying to cover anything up he could have divorced her and let her parents take over care, since that’s all they wanted. They would have kept Terri alive by any means and there would not have been any such in depth medical probes. They would have gone on believing she could see and hear them and that she could recover and he could have gone on with his life and not be called a murderer in the press by public figures. It would have all been over, but he didn’t take the easy way out. I know some would argue that he was still trying to cover stuff up but there would have been no way for Terri’s family to prove anything while she was alive and they were not going to let her die. He would have been in the clear had he done anything wrong.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/82 "2005-07-08T17:40:22Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> So, I take it that ol’ Jeb will now publicly apologize to Michael for inflicting this last trip through the wringer on the man?

It probably isn’t the last trip. At the grocery store earlier today to get lunch and one of the tabloids had something about Scott Peterson on the cover.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/83 "2005-07-08T19:26:58Z")

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I bet whoever wrote that article got his scientific information from _A Few Good Men_. :rolleyes:

Robin

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**Author:** ![EleventyOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@EleventyOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EleventyOne)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/84 "2005-07-08T19:36:43Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> So, I take it that ol’ Jeb will now publicly apologize to Michael for inflicting this last trip through the wringer on the man?

Yes, and it’s sure to be blasted across page 6, under the fold, in gigantic size 8 font, so everyone will be sure to notice it. Just like the article I spotted today about the ending of the inquiry.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/85 "2005-07-09T06:44:38Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> So, I take it that ol’ Jeb will now publicly apologize to Michael for inflicting this last trip through the wringer on the man?

Does [this](http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/state/epaper/2005/07/09/a6a_schiavo_0709.html) count?

> [@](#):
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> “It’s done,” Bush told reporters at a hurricane briefing early Friday afternoon. “Sad tragedy. Horribly sad.”
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> Asked to elaborate, he said, “I think it’s pretty clear – sad tragedy. That’s what I mean. It’s a sad tragedy that this woman starved to death.”

Probably not, I’d guess.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/86 "2005-07-09T06:55:38Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Just one question, as this particular forensic postulate intrigues me: what on earth is “neck rigidity consistent with manual strangulation”??? What mysterious force produces said rigidity without external bruising or damaged neck cartilage, which would have been found on hospital admission and/or at autopsy?

Oh, don’t even start… on another Web site I frequent, I had to argue about this with somebody who claimed that if you strangle someone with a belt, smothered them with a pillow, or used the police choke hold, there will be no bruises and no evidence of strangulation. And he said a cop told him those things!

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/87 "2005-07-09T16:11:57Z")

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Hmmm. I was told all sorts of wrong things about the guy–acquiring the girlfriend, the insurance money, the history of abuse–and I’m glad it’s all been cleared up. It was a strange episode and made a lot of people think about questions they’d rather not think about.

And notice I said girlfriend, not mistress (which some people gave me flack for in the other thread). If his wife was actually dead, as it turns out she was, then Michael was no longer married to her and the woman was not dating a married man. So I take that back.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/88 "2005-07-09T16:22:30Z")

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Time now for Jeb to be probed for malicious prosecution.

Preferably anally.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/89 "2005-07-09T17:05:21Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> So, I take it that ol’ Jeb will now publicly apologize to Michael for inflicting this last trip through the wringer on the man?
> 
> _crickets chirping_

Umm, **EddyTeddyFreddy** , you’ve stopped holding your breath by now, haven’t you?

[quote=Mehitabel]  
So I take that back.\*\*  
Thank you, **Mehitabel**. There is a very human tendency to rush to judgement sometimes. I’m pleased that with greater knowledge you were able to work past your first impressions.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/90 "2005-07-09T17:06:28Z")

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[QUOTE=This Year’s Model]

> [@Mehitabel](#):
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> So I take that back.\*\*

You may, of course, rush to a judgement that I can’t code worth shit if you like.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/91 "2005-07-09T17:10:25Z")

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[QUOTE=This Year’s Model]

> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> You may, of course, rush to a judgement that I can’t code worth shit if you like.

It’s easier to code if you don’t hold your breath till you turn blue. 😉

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/92 "2005-07-11T15:08:49Z")

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It seems this is never going to end:

[Senator Coburn challenges Schiavo autopsy results.](http://www.tulsaworld.com/EmailStoryDisplay.asp?ID=050708_Ne_A11_Cobur34631)

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/93 "2005-07-11T16:04:56Z")

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Christ.

This guy may be an OB and an MD, but just because he’s read a lot of autopsy reports, that doesn’t mean he’s qualified to pass judgment. Hell, I’ve read thousands of X-ray reports, but that doesn’t make me a radiologist.

Robin

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/94 "2005-07-11T16:18:50Z")

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In this day and age of HIPAA, why does a doctor who didn’t treat this woman have a copy of her medical records?? Did Congress get a copy from the Schiavos? Why are they passing around confidential medical records that could be potentially enbarrassing? This isn’t a funny Dilbert cartoon, this is someone’s personal medical file. I sure as hell wouldn’t want my file passed around to strangers that arean’t treating me, however well-meaning they may be.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/95 "2005-07-11T16:43:05Z")

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> [@some asshole](#):
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> I have before me, a list of known communists!

(Actually, it was a blank piece of paper.)

Basically, who is to say he isn’t lying his head off over having the report?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/96 "2005-07-11T17:51:22Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> It seems this is never going to end:
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> [Senator Coburn challenges Schiavo autopsy results.](http://www.tulsaworld.com/EmailStoryDisplay.asp?ID=050708_Ne_A11_Cobur34631)

Keeee-rist! Does this idiot not even read the polls?

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/97 "2005-07-11T18:04:28Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Christ.
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> This guy may be an OB and an MD, but just because he’s read a lot of autopsy reports, that doesn’t mean he’s qualified to pass judgment. Hell, I’ve read thousands of X-ray reports, but that doesn’t make me a radiologist.
> 
> Robin

Don’t forget, this is the same man who wants to put doctors to **death** for providing a legal medical procedure to women, and who thinks the “gay agenda” is a bigger threat to our freedom (our FREEDOM??!!??) than terrorism.

> [@Tom Coburn](#):
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> [http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/002292.html](http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/002292.html)
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> “I favor the death penalty,” Coburn said, “for abortionists and other people who take life.”
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> \<snip\>
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> “…The gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield extreme power. … That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That’s a gay agenda.”

He justifies his advocacy for murdering doctors by lamenting that his own bloodline wouldn’t exist if rape victims were historically allowed abortions, since his own great-grandmother was a rape victim. Yes, better that living human beings be put to death (fuck _their_ bloodlines continuing!), than a few cells be scraped out of the uterus of a woman who’s been so grotesquely violated.

Thank you Oklahomans for voting this fuckwad back into public office _ **after** _ he proved how evil and sick he is with these comments. Thank you for continuing to fuck up our country.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/98 "2005-07-11T18:39:07Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> DHe justifies his advocacy for murdering doctors by lamenting that his own bloodline wouldn’t exist if rape victims were historically allowed abortions, since his own great-grandmother was a rape victim.

That’s the best pro-choice argument I’ve heard this year.

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**Author:** ![EleventyOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@EleventyOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EleventyOne)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/99 "2005-07-11T18:42:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “…Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That’s a gay agenda.”

Totally apart from the fact that the guy sounds like a bigot and an idiot, why the hell would abortion be a _gay_ agenda? As fundies are so fond of using as an argument against gay marriage, people who only sleep with people of the same sex won’t get pregnant.

Dumbass.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeb-requests-da-probe-of-m-schiavo/309838/100 "2005-07-11T18:45:01Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That’s the best pro-choice argument I’ve heard this year.

Curse you! Hot tea out my nose!

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