# Jeep engine help -- Paging Rick!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeep-engine-help-paging-rick/539354
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeep-engine-help-paging-rick/539354 "2010-05-13T22:16:50Z")
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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeep-engine-help-paging-rick/539354/1 "2010-05-13T22:16:50Z")

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A friend of mine has a Jeep Wrangler (I don’t know what year) with a 4.0l six. She says it’s running a little rough.

> [@friend](#):
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> The Jeep went in for a tune up while I was off that week, still has this rough running feeling that no one can seem to pinpoint. [Mechanic] says it’s a vacuum leak somewhere but every time I take it to him to fix he can’t find it or just doesn’t know where to start looking for it. It’s been doing this for over a year now, it runs fine besides that and even better when the weather is warmer so I’m not taking it in until it turns into a problem.
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> \<2nd email\>
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> The Jeep is vibrating really bad, feels like it’s coming from underneath. Could be the throttle body. [Mechanic] did mention that, might be a hole in the exhaust pipe too. Yes, the manifold is cracked but it has been for a while, way before this rumbling occured. [_NB: The exhaust manifold on Jeep 4.0l engines tend to develop cracks. – J L.A._] I don’t ever drive on the freeway anymore so I don’t know if it needs to be blown out so to speak. I do know that it runs a little smoother in warm weather and that you only feel it when you’re at a stand still with the engine running.
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> [Mechanic] said it could be the engine mounts too. I just had a transmission mount replaced, and older cars tend to loosen up with age and vibrate a lot more. Not really sure exaclty what’s causing it but it’s running fine other than this issue.

**Rick** and other automotive Dopers, any guesses as to the source of the problem?

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### Author: ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeep-engine-help-paging-rick/539354/2 "2010-05-14T03:05:57Z")

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No idea about the rough running feeling, but what did she replace the transmission mount with? I replaced my factory mount, which is pretty soft, with a heavy duty poly mount that vibrated like crazy.

Does she have factory tires/suspension? A little suspension lift can put the driveline in a bind and cause vibrations when stopped and/or just as it starts moving.

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### Author: ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeep-engine-help-paging-rick/539354/3 "2010-05-14T04:18:26Z")

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I gather the symptom is strictly a rough idle, with the engine running well otherwise.

Checking for obvious vacuum leaks is a good place to start. Next thing to check is carbon build-up in the throttle body. Not much point in going any further until those two areas are known to be in good shape.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeep-engine-help-paging-rick/539354/4 "2010-05-14T15:01:58Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Does she have factory tires/suspension? A little suspension lift can put the driveline in a bind and cause vibrations when stopped and/or just as it starts moving.

It’s been a while since I’ve seen her in person, but I think it might be raised a little. Maybe just the factory ‘up-country’ option. (She bought it used.) Wouldn’t vibrations caused by the suspension have cropped up earlier?

> [@Gary\_T](#):
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> I gather the symptom is strictly a rough idle, with the engine running well otherwise.
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> Checking for obvious vacuum leaks is a good place to start. Next thing to check is carbon build-up in the throttle body. Not much point in going any further until those two areas are known to be in good shape.

Her mechanic friend thinks it’s a vacuum leak, but couldn’t find one. I hadn’t thought about the throttle body.
