# Jeez, can't we just save ourselves some trouble and just Ban Hitler apologists/deniers? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 8, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238 "2012-05-08T02:56:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/41 "2012-05-08T16:13:27Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > . . . then all the other CT threads. After that, we can clear away the atheists/theists threads and so on. What are CT threads? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/42 "2012-05-08T16:14:54Z")
CT=Conspiracy Theory -XT ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/43 "2012-05-08T16:15:45Z")
> [@D18](#): > > What are CT threads? Conspiracy theories. Certainly we’ve had plenty of dumbass September 11th conspiracy threads and most of the other famous conspiracy theory topics are exhausted, but we’ve had a few entertaining _outre_ theories like ‘Were the Stuart Kings black?’ and ‘Did the CIA and Eric Burdon murder Jimi Hendrix?’ ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/44 "2012-05-08T16:25:53Z")
> [@D18](#): > > What are CT threads? Computerized Tomography threads. What? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/45 "2012-05-08T16:27:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I was with you until the last step, **kunilou** , not that I expect any of those types of thread to be banned. By last step, do you mean “scorn and ridicule,” “so on” or “atheist/theist?” No matter, simply substitute anarcho-capitalism, creationism, universal health care, the bombing of Hiroshima or any other topic which tends to attract extreme, irrational posts regardless of the intent of the OP. It’s all the same slippery slope. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/46 "2012-05-08T16:38:17Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > By last step, do you mean “scorn and ridicule,” “so on” or “atheist/theist?” I meant the “atheist/theist” part. I understand what you’re saying - there are many unresolvable topics and that’s in large part what GD is for. I don’t think it follows that we would start cracking down on those kinds of topic just because we ban some of the topics that attract the lunatics. But that being said, this is all hypothetical. We don’t want to declare any topics off-limits. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/47 "2012-05-08T16:50:36Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Computerized Tomography threads. Hey, use a tag if you’re going to post about x-rayed topics. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/48 "2012-05-08T16:59:41Z")
Personally, I’ll give GermanicPride credit for the fact he was willing to come right out and say what he meant. He said he was a Nazi, he admired Hitler, and didn’t like Jews. It was refreshingly honest at least. We get so many racists that want to dance around the subject and not actually say what everyone knows they’re thinking. We end up with those threads that are supposedly about illegal immigration or affirmative action or hate crimes or gang activities or intelligence testing or national languages - but are really all about race. ---
**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/49 "2012-05-08T17:02:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Personally, I’ll give GermanicPride credit for the fact he was willing to come right out and say what he meant. He said he was a Nazi, he admired Hitler, and didn’t like Jews. It was refreshingly honest at least. We get so many racists that want to dance around the subject and not actually say what everyone knows they’re thinking. We end up with those threads that are supposedly about illegal immigration or affirmative action or hate crimes or gang activities or intelligence testing or national languages - but are really all about race. Yet still he kept insisting he wasn’t a Holocaust denier - what was up with that? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/50 "2012-05-08T17:03:03Z")
No credit from me. He only came out and said what he thought after everybody realized by inference that that was obviously what he thought. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/51 "2012-05-08T17:06:28Z")
[QUOTE=Pitchmeister] Yet still he kept insisting he wasn’t a Holocaust denier - what was up with that? [/QUOTE] He’s one of the denier types who (sort of) acknowledges that some Jews and others were killed, but tries to minimize the numbers…as if by doing so it makes it ok or at least more acceptable. I’ve seen a lot of denier types who take this route. To THEM it makes some sort of difference I suppose. -XT ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/52 "2012-05-08T17:12:27Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > Yet still he kept insisting he wasn’t a Holocaust denier - what was up with that? “Denier? I’m a huge fan!” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/53 "2012-05-08T17:16:32Z")
> [@XT](#): > > He’s one of the denier types who (sort of) acknowledges that some Jews and others were killed, but tries to minimize the numbers…as if by doing so it makes it ok or at least more acceptable. I’ve seen a lot of denier types who take this route. To THEM it makes some sort of difference I suppose. This type also harps on the fact that many of the concentration camp prisoners died of disease and malnutrition instead of by poison gas. I guess we should be offended because they think that will matter to anybody. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/54 "2012-05-08T19:15:36Z")
I think we should instaban anyone who likes shaky cam. And vegans. Once you start banning people for ideas, then where do you stop? ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/55 "2012-05-08T19:16:10Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > It concerns me that if we ban the Holocaust denier threads because - let’s face it – those people are racist assholes, that the next step will be to ban the birther threads for the same reason. Then it’s a short (and “justifiable”) step to ban the 9/11 threads, because those people are whackjobs, then all the other CT threads. After that, we can clear away the atheists/theists threads and so on. > > I vote for scorn and ridicule. I was going to ask the same [slippery slope] question: Shall we ban the following? Why, or why not? 1. Moon landing hoax believers 2. 9/11 thruthers 3. Oswald did not kill Kennedy believers 4. Global warming deniers 5. Gun control opponents 6. Republicans 7. Fox News viewers Edit: Posting before finishing the thread. Still in the middle of page 1! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/56 "2012-05-08T19:23:15Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I think we should instaban anyone who likes shaky cam. And vegans. > > Once you start banning people for ideas, then where do you stop? With people that promote and celebrate genocide. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/57 "2012-05-08T19:30:09Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Once you start banning people for ideas, then where do you stop? At Neo-Nazis. Which is where we can start, too. Besides, it’s not banning people for mere ideas. Someone can think or support all sorts of stupid shit. Troofers are _idiots_, but Neo-Nazis are _jerks_. We ban jerks, we do not (unfortunately enough) ban idiots. Just, ya know, if we were going to go for it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/58 "2012-05-08T19:32:36Z")
First they came for the Nazis… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/59 "2012-05-08T19:47:27Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > And, what if we had banned Jack Dean Tyler on his first day here? Huh? Huh? 😃 Then even fewer people would know who you were talking about? Jeeze, I’ve been here twelve years and I nearly missed him. And made a point of avoiding him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/60 "2012-05-08T20:03:36Z")
When they came for the holocaust deniers… … I kinda nodded in approval, actually. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238.md?page=4)