# Jeezus H. Christmas - "Spider-modified goats"??!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 23, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793 "2003-11-23T03:51:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/61 "2003-11-25T00:40:38Z")

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> I also doubt very much that the carcasses were processed for use as animal feed.

Not likely. However I wouldn’t be too surprised if it turns out that lab rats took one of the carcases home for a little spider-goat barbeque.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/62 "2003-11-25T00:47:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Menocchio \*  
> **You’d never know the goats were transgenic from looking at them (I’d bet).**

Well, until their ears fall off and they go kidnap Geena Davis, that is.

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**Author:** ![Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bluesman)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/63 "2003-11-25T00:58:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DocCathode \*  
> \*\*Re-Euthanizing The Goats  
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So, now I’m having mental images of people blowing the heads off of zombie spider-goats. That ought to make for some fun dreams tonight.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/64 "2003-11-25T02:30:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 12hazel \*  
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> > They’re just products to be used as we see fit. No different then any other goat, chicken, cow, or rat.
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> Couple of problems with that.  
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Just wanted to point out the misattribution here - it was actually **MGibson** who said that.

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/65 "2003-11-25T03:03:08Z")

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> - Products? “As we see fit”? Who died and left people in charge??

Well, if you are christian, you should realize that God gave mankind dominion over the earth and over the lesser beasts right?  
And if not, well, the strongest make the moral code, and our history shows us that we “think” we have dominion over all the ‘lesser’ beasts.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/66 "2003-11-25T03:48:40Z")

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I’m not worried about spider-goats. We can just engineer a predator like lizard-leopards.

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**Author:** ![SanguineSpider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SanguineSpider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanguineSpider)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/67 "2003-11-25T04:53:39Z")

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WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE???  
_pant_

Ok, it’s still a weird idea that we humans can play God so easily. And I agree with **Dizzy Fingers** about having a great responsibility in the things we try to do. It can get out of hand and backfire so we must proceed with caution and prudence.  
Goat fibers for body armor… weird but useful perhaps. Or just weird.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/68 "2003-11-25T06:03:55Z")

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That article is from the town I’m in right now.

I thought it was disturbing, but hey, its better than what was in the shut down air force base before that. . . A crapload of nukes.

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/69 "2003-11-25T07:39:37Z")

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> Re-Euthanizing The Goats

I’m opposed to this kind of genetic engineering–if you’ve got an animal you have to euthanize more than once to get the job done, you’ve gone too far.

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**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/70 "2003-11-26T01:05:02Z")

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Hey, I got a crazy idea…

Instead of making transgenic goats from whose milk we can extract synthetic spider silk with which to make body armor, why don’t we just, you know,… **NOT SHOOT EACH OTHER?!?!**

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/71 "2003-11-26T01:44:53Z")

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I just hope they euthanized them with a 1920’s-style death ray.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/72 "2003-11-26T06:35:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bizzwire \*  
> \*\* why don’t we just, you know,… **NOT SHOOT EACH OTHER?!?!** \*\*

YEAH! And if anyone violates that rule, we shoot them!

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**Author:** ![12hazel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/919ad9/32.png) [@12hazel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/12hazel)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/73 "2003-11-26T06:46:57Z")

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> /Tars Tarkas/  
> Goats aren’t sentient. Unless Primitive Goat Cavemen have evolved without the rest of the world knowing except you.

For **Tars** and whoever else hasn’t bothered to look it up before waxing sarcastic:

sentient, adj.  
Having sense perception; conscious. Experiencing sensation or feeling.

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## [Latin sentiens, sentient- present participle of sentire, to feel. See sent- in Indo-European Roots.]

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

sentient

\Sen"ti\*ent, a. [L. sentiens, -entis, p. pr. of sentire to discern or perceive by the senses. See Sense.] Having a faculty, or faculties, of sensation and perception.

Source: Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary

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**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeezus-h-christmas-spider-modified-goats/214793/74 "2003-11-26T07:05:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Xploder \*  
> \*\*I know I want a spider goat. With great big horns. And a lot of fangs. Then I’m gonna let it loose to take care of all these fucking skunks that seem to think that my garbage can is their dinner table. \*\*

[hijack]You can get rid of those skunks by eating Yoplait yogurt, and not crushing the containers before throwing them away. The skunks stick their head into the narrow necked container to lick out the remaining yogurt, and can’t get the container off.

Note that this results in a horrible starving death for the skunks – not the quick death of being fanged by spider goats. But it is probably cheaper, and you get to eat yogurt.[/hijack]

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