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**No, it’s that the entire concept is FUCKING GROSS. **
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Gross? As in disgusting, Freddy Krueger slashing teens “gross”? It’s just science. Why is that “gross”? Is the skin that “they’re” managing to “grow” for helping burn patients “gross”?
Different, at odds (spider? goat?), Sure. But “gross” as in gag me with a spoon? I’m perplexed as to why people are so weirded out by this.
Ummm, well, I don’t. Sorry It’s a bit odd, but they have been tossing this and other ideas about for some time now
Hey, it’s a brave new world. I’m stunned that here I am, an old fuddy duddy, and I think that it’s pretty interesting, and yet there are youngsters prissing about with “eeeuuuuwwww grody”
Ummm yeah, what Mac said. See, the difference is that the “spider/goats” were modified for a useful purpose. Not for sexual ones.
Your reasoning doesn’t make sense. No one’s talking about gene modification for sexual gratification purposes here. Especially not for ones which would be completely useless.
Where the hell is a “perplexed smilie” when you need one?
Are you suggesting that you’d have sex with a wild-type goat?
Anyway, put me down in the “no big deal” camp. You’d never know the goats were transgenic from looking at them (I’d bet). There are good reasons to harvest spider fibers in quantities not availiable from simple spiders. I bet these fellows lived as good a life as normal milk goats (until they were euthanized of course, which is a shame but I see why it was done).
Does anyone know how the fibers are taken from the milk? You’re also aware, jjim that no one asking you to drink this fibrous milk, right? And, in fact, the reason these goats were killed when they weren’t needed was so that they wouldn’t “pollute” the larger goat population.
Anyway, would I have sex with a genetically modifed human?
Yes.
Cockroack sperm from nipples? Yes. I’d forgo the nipple sucking portions of foreplay, however. And I have no idea why someone would want to do that.
However, a human, you realize, would most likely be treated to avoid some deadly ailment. So would I have sex with a woman who doesn’t have cystic fibrosis? Of course!
Aside from killing off (living, breathing, sentient) 214 animals you purposely made, 'cause you later made “better” ones?
Aside from dicking around with DNA like it’s a toy (why NOT meat trees? why not ass-monkeys? why not armored, winged amphibian hominids* with cockroach DNA mixed it to survive those nuclear attacks?)
Aside from lactating web silk? Imagine pulling dental floss out through yer nipples… or urethra, if your nipples aren’t sensitive enough for this image to make an impact. Got it now?
Aside from the fact that the purpose of this Dr. Moreau insanity is to feed the psycho war machine?**
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Well, gee… Nothing, I guess… Nothing at all. Sorry I mentioned it.
*Gotta be hominids, 'cause human DNA experiments are immoral, you see.
**Well, yes, maybe I would feel a little better if they knit warm clothes for the homeless out of that goat s/milk…
Those are called soybeans.
(On the other hand, growing plants that gave a fruit or bark that had the taste and texture of steak would (if they could be grown economically) reduce our dependence of feed-lot beef (reducing mad cow issues) while possibly reducing our cholestrol and fat intake. So why not?)
No. The “spider silk” is extracted from the liquid milk, so we are not pulling strings out of teats.
They’ve been breeding these things for 10 years eh. This isn’t a new thing. It’s not a disgusting idea or anything, it’s rather clever really. Spider silk is very strong, and could be very useful if it could be collected in large amounts, and getting it through goat milk is potentially a useful resource.
OK, look, Jack Russell Terriers were created by selecting animals with desirable traits that would normally and naturally be sexually attracted to each other and arranging for them to do the tube-snake boogie.
Wheat and corn were created by selecting (gasp) wheat and corn plants with the largest seeds and using them as next years seed stock, with a bit of pollination help when it was discovered how wheat and corn plants make seeds.
I’ll cease to be COMPLETELY FREAKED OUT by the idea of Spider Goats when I see a spider gazing tenderly into the eyes of a goat with smokey tenor sax music playing in the background.
Well, we had a jumping spider in the barn a couple of summers back that insisted on making her nest just above one of our breeding does. Does that count? (Of course, since the spider and the goat were both female,
I suppose that introduces a different level of complication into the equation: we’d have had Rev. Donald Wildmon joining Jeremy Rifkin to protest our operation.)
I know I want a spider goat. With great big horns. And a lot of fangs. Then I’m gonna let it loose to take care of all these fucking skunks that seem to think that my garbage can is their dinner table.
It’s a bit odd, but they have been tossing this and other ideas about for some time now
