# Jeff Dunham deleted scene **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 19, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590 "2012-06-19T00:47:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/21 "2012-06-19T16:32:01Z")
Semi-Off topic, but this right here is the perfect analogy of what is wrong with politics today. Average SDMB person: I don’t know Jeff Dunham, I feel he is lowbrow and racist. Second ASDMBP : I disagree, I find him humorous, usually. First ASDMBP: You are wrong, and all the folks here that agree with me prove me right. Second ASDMBP: But there are just as many folks agreeing with me? First ASDMBP: I can’t hear you! LALALALALA _fingers in ears_ Of course, humor is subjective, that is true. I find him funny, but I also love Carlin, enjoy Demitri Martin, and find Louis CK to be quite good. For the record: I HATE Larry the Cable guy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/22 "2012-06-19T16:35:02Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I find him absolutely hilarious when he’s not using his racial stereotype puppets (so his own stand-up, Walter, and Peanut), I dislike Larry the Cable Guy severely, and at this point in my life I’m a staunch liberal. > > People who complain that someone uses stereotypes probably shouldn’t rely on stereotypes themselves. Actually, Peanut is rather racist. Look how he treats Jose while Jose usually gets the better of Peanut. I still think Dunham is funny as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/23 "2012-06-19T16:37:05Z")
I’m liberal, my husband is a Mexican. And we both love him. “…on a stick.” is one we find particularly funny and it’s the Mexican “racist” puppet. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/24 "2012-06-19T16:41:32Z")
I’m just not into ventriloquism. I’m not really familiar with his material enough to determine whether he’s racist. I just think he’s not funny based on the two minutes I once subjected myself to. It doesn’t have to be more complicated than that. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/25 "2012-06-19T16:45:16Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > He isn’t funny, and appeals only to people who enjoy the fact that he’s basically standing on a stage shouting the word “nigger” over and over again for two hours. I appreciate offensive comedy, but he forgot the comedy part. “Some people aren’t white. That’s the joke!” This is a gross exaggeration of his act, which I presume you engaged in for the subversive thrill of getting to post the word “nigger” on an internet messageboard. Lame. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/26 "2012-06-19T16:50:47Z")
Okay, I’m open-minded. Someone direct me to a clip of what you think is the best Jeff Dunham, and I’ll watch it. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/27 "2012-06-19T17:01:36Z")
He’s not a very good comedian. He is a great ventriloquist, though. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/28 "2012-06-19T17:12:23Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Um, cite? I like him and I can read very well without moving my lips. I also know the difference between their and they’re. > > Also, I just don’t see the full on constant racism others are seeing. Sure he has some racist parts in his act, but that’s not his whole act. You want a cite for the fact that I don’t hold people who like him in high regard? Or do you want a cite for the fact that I don’t think people who like him are very smart? As for the racism, you don’t find a jalapeno pepper wearing a sombrero and talking like an extra from a 1970s era Dorito commercial racist? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/29 "2012-06-19T17:14:59Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > As for the racism, you don’t find a jalapeno pepper wearing a sombrero and talking like an extra from a 1970s era Dorito commercial racist? But it is funny. That kinda humor is smokin. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/30 "2012-06-19T17:32:36Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > You want a cite for the fact that I don’t hold people who like him in high regard? Or do you want a cite for the fact that I don’t think people who like him are very smart? As for the racism, you don’t find a jalapeno pepper wearing a sombrero and talking like an extra from a 1970s era Dorito commercial racist? Boy, you are really letting yourself in for it, aren’t you? > [@madmonk28](#): > > No, it pretty much requires you to be a red stater, or a closeted red stater in a blue state. No one who reads without moving their lips likes him, **it’s a proven fact** (it’s why their so impressed he doesn’t move his lips). So which is it? Your opinion, or proven fact? And don’t try to pass it off as trying to be funny, because if you were trying to make a joke, then Larry is funnier than you. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/31 "2012-06-19T17:35:08Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > No, it pretty much requires you to be a red stater, or a closeted red stater in a blue state. No one who reads without moving their lips likes him, it’s a proven fact (it’s why their so impressed he doesn’t move his lips). It always amazes that some blue staters think they are so much smarter than red staters. Yet blue state hs dropout rates are higher take my state of Cali for example. Go figure. Moronic elitism is as annoying as anything in the red states. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/32 "2012-06-19T17:40:56Z")
The fact that Jeff Dunham is so popular despite the fact that he is pretty much racist, hacky and unfunny doesn’t bother me so much as the fact that he is so popular despite being a fucking ventriloquist. Chrissakes vaudeville is dead; let it be. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/33 "2012-06-19T17:44:08Z")
His half brother is a French mime who’s act is very sexist and racist. Now THATS some annoying shit. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/34 "2012-06-19T17:58:25Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > He’s the guy with the racists puppets like a jalepeno in a sombrero and an Arab who hates America? “Achmed The Dead Terrorist” ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/35 "2012-06-19T18:03:26Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > As for the racism, you don’t find a jalapeno pepper wearing a sombrero and talking like an extra from a 1970s era Dorito commercial racist? No, I said the racism was a not a big part of his act. Jose Jalapeno on a Stick is only about 10 minutes of his act. And when I went to see him live, he didn’t use Jose at all. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/36 "2012-06-19T18:20:15Z")
An aside. IIRC Jeff built his own helicopter from a kit. That takes a buttload of time and attention to detail as well as a fair bit of intelligence to boot. I think there is even an at least mildly amusing video of him taking Walter for a ride in it out there somewhere. Or maybe thats how he smuggled Jose across the border one moonless night. I forget which. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/37 "2012-06-19T18:47:56Z")
I really don’t like Dunham or any other intentionally “red state” comics, but I will say that Dunham’s appearance on 30 Rock was extremely funny. Great example of both good ventriloquism and good insult comedy. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/38 "2012-06-19T18:53:20Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > I really don’t like Dunham or any other intentionally “red state” comics, but I will say that Dunham’s appearance on 30 Rock was extremely funny. Great example of both good ventriloquism and good insult comedy. So you liked him? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/39 "2012-06-19T19:08:28Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > I really don’t like Dunham or any other intentionally “red state” comics, but I will say that Dunham’s appearance on 30 Rock was extremely funny. Great example of both good ventriloquism and good insult comedy. What makes him intentionally “red state”? Maybe he’s done something recently I haven’t seen, but while he has Achmed which, sure, a lot of red staters like, he also had Bubba J, who basically embodied every stereotype of the Southern NASCAR-lovin’ cousin-kissin’ white trash yokel. (And wasn’t very funny, even though I don’t think much of NASCAR myself.) It’s like calling Christopher Titus a red state comedian for bagging on the French and Al-Qaeda in one of his acts, even though he turns right around and makes merciless fun of Bush and guns. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/40 "2012-06-19T19:37:55Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > An aside. > > IIRC Jeff built his own helicopter from a kit. And it nearly killed him, just to be fair. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590.md?page=3)