# Jeff Dunham deleted scene

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 19, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590 "2012-06-19T00:47:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/41 "2012-06-19T19:44:36Z")

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Thats because he let Walter fly 🙂

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/42 "2012-06-19T19:53:50Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Thats because he let Walter fly 🙂

“I don’t know how to fly this damn thing. And I’m afraid of heights. Get my damn ass back on the ground right now!”

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/43 "2012-06-19T20:07:02Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> So you liked him?

In the context, I did. I’ve seen more than one of his specials and legitimately didn’t like 90% of his act.

I’m not sure if it’s a case where the specials are a bad showcase of his style or the 30 Rock material was just unusually good for him. Or, heck, maybe I remember the 30 Rock scene as better than it was; my recollection has it substantially funnier, smarter, and more biting than I recall seeing in other recordings.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/44 "2012-06-19T20:10:58Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> What makes him intentionally “red state”? Maybe he’s done something recently I haven’t seen, but while he has Achmed which, sure, a lot of red staters like, he also had Bubba J, who basically embodied every stereotype of the Southern NASCAR-lovin’ cousin-kissin’ white trash yokel. (And wasn’t very funny, even though I don’t think much of NASCAR myself.)

Yeah…kinda exactly. You know who else makes fun of NASCAR-lovin’, cousin-kissin’ stereotypes? Other “red state” comics. If you weren’t writing for that audience, the jokes would seem insulting and tasteless or would fall flat. As they do for me. So I go back to my rehabbed urban loft, drink my latte, and listen to comics who make fun of _urbane people of taste_.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/45 "2012-06-19T20:37:45Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> Okay, I’m open-minded. Someone direct me to a clip of what you think is the best Jeff Dunham, and I’ll watch it.

Me too. Never heard of him and I don’t want to wade through dozens of clips. Someone who likes him, please post link to his funniest stuff.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/46 "2012-06-19T20:50:00Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Yeah…kinda exactly. You know who else makes fun of NASCAR-lovin’, cousin-kissin’ stereotypes? Other “red state” comics. If you weren’t writing for that audience, the jokes would seem insulting and tasteless or would fall flat. As they do for me. So I go back to my rehabbed urban loft, drink my latte, and listen to comics who make fun of _urbane people of taste_.

…Okay? 😕

Not everyone prefers to have jokes aimed at themselves. Some folks prefer to have jokes aimed at people they consider ridiculous. That goes for both red and blue.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/47 "2012-06-19T21:14:54Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> …Okay? 😕
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> Not everyone prefers to have jokes aimed at themselves. Some folks prefer to have jokes aimed at people they consider ridiculous. That goes for both red and blue.

All of us are ridiculous. We are human. But some folks only see the stupid in others.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/48 "2012-06-19T21:36:31Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Me too. Never heard of him and I don’t want to wade through dozens of clips. Someone who likes him, please post link to his funniest stuff.

I love the guy but I don’t want to wade through dozens of clips to find his funniest stuff for someone who doesn’t care enough to go look for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/49 "2012-06-19T22:10:31Z")

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> [@Rick](#):
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> This times 20. Last time I watched his arguing with myself special it was with the wife, a very liberal lawyer and a well respected educator.  
> We were all in tears we were laughing so hard. None of us thought it was racist.  
> Just because you don’t like a particular act that does not mean all of America hates it.

Though apparently it does mean that being highly educated and not a racist is no guarantee against having terrible taste in comedy.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/50 "2012-06-19T22:51:10Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> Though apparently it does mean that being highly educated and not a racist is no guarantee against having terrible taste in comedy.

Oh yeah! Well stuff you like sucks.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/51 "2012-06-19T23:07:09Z")

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Checked out a clip and, well, morons need entertainment too.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/52 "2012-06-20T01:55:10Z")

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does anyone know what the racist bit in question is?

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/53 "2012-06-20T04:42:05Z")

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I think Walter is frickin’ brilliant. From “Spark of Insanity” (posted on Jeff Dunham’s own YouTube channel):  
part 1 [- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni7dfOpdMS0)  
part 2 [- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRsgaexTWng)  
part 3 [- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7qp3SP-C8)

[The best of Walter](http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=4pb6RFbRxeg&v=ofkHfiZ3cZI&annotation_id=annotation_748663&feature=iv) from various guest appearances.

I’d love to see him go head-to-head with Don Rickles.

Almost as good is Achmed the dead terrorist (also from JD’s channel): [- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGKpRJbRtU)

In addition, it’s probably one of the bravest pieces of entertainment I’ve ever seen, because there’s a good chance he got a death threat or two for it. But see this post: [Ahmed, the Dead Terrorist - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=560470)

The offensive Chinese material referred to is probably in one or both of these clips. I will admit he’s at least going right to the edge.[spoiler][- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC9FkrvZroQ)  
[- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rANfBEV46-I%5B/spoiler%5D)

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/54 "2012-06-20T06:11:44Z")

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**bazzle** -1st THANK YOU for linking! 2nd, the bit I’m refering to in the OP is the 1st one in the spoiler.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/55 "2012-06-20T13:26:22Z")

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Well, he is an amateur astronomer and his black wife speaks French.

From his 30 Rock appearance.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/56 "2012-06-20T14:20:31Z")

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Just to chime in here, I wanted everybody to know that what I find funny is indeed funny, and what I don’t find funny, is, in fact, not funny.

This also is also true about racism, and any humor that may or may not involve race and racial stereotypes.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/57 "2012-06-20T14:30:40Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> He’s not a very good comedian. He is a great ventriloquist, though.

Really? I caught a bit of his last special on Comedy Central, and it seemed to me that he’s slipped a bit - he seemed a little laissez-faire and sloppy in spots. I remember him being better than what I saw recently.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/58 "2012-06-20T14:45:35Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> I think Walter is frickin’ brilliant. From “Spark of Insanity” (posted on Jeff Dunham’s own YouTube channel):  
> part 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni7dfOpdMS0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni7dfOpdMS0)  
> part 2 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRsgaexTWng](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRsgaexTWng)  
> part 3 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7qp3SP-C8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7qp3SP-C8)

K, I made it through 4 minutes that time. I just don’t find him funny. Even a little bit. I’ve never been a fan of ventriloquism OR one-liners.

As far as the racist/offensive humor goes, he reminds me of the also unfunny Carlos Mencia, in the way he really really wants people to know he doesn’t care who he offends. He’s not kidding, you all. He’s hardcore. He’ll say anything.

Compare to Louis CK whose ultimate goal is comedy, not provocation.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/59 "2012-06-20T15:02:10Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> K, I made it through 4 minutes that time. I just don’t find him funny. Even a little bit. I’ve never been a fan of ventriloquism OR one-liners.

I went to a dinner once and ordered clam chowder. It was not good and I did not like it, even a little bit. Of course I don’t like clam chowder. Never have and probably never will.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-dunham-deleted-scene/625590/60 "2012-06-20T15:06:27Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I went to a dinner once and ordered clam chowder. It was not good and I did not like it, even a little bit. Of course I don’t like clam chowder. Never have and probably never will.

Hey, I don’t like clam chowder either.

I may not understand why people find Jeff Dunham funny, but I’m not going to fault them for it. Humor is a highly subjective thing.

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