# Jeff Flake considers 2020 bid as (R) or (I)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 16, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678 "2018-03-16T17:39:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678/41 "2018-03-22T23:54:02Z")

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_Wait Wait, Don’t tell Me_ had a live show in Phoenix a few years ago, which my wife and I attended. The local guest was Jeff Flake, which took some guts, because both the host and the majority of the audience were pretty strongly anti-GOP.  
Jeff was gracious, funny, and charming, and has turned (along with John McCain) into a voice of reason in the otherwise insane GOP. I won’t vote for him, but I wouldn’t be upset if he won.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678/42 "2018-03-23T00:31:19Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> and whoever else hasn’t yet gone into full sucking-up-to-Dear-Leader mode.

Although out of office, former Governor Shwarzenegger is on that list. Yesterday he [appeared](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/age-trump-schwarzenegger-centrist-gop-53897031) at a meeting of a small group of Republicans trying to gain traction within the CA GOP, New Way California. Kasich apparently was in the neighborhood and showed up too.

Flake may be considering a run but he’s already behind if he is. Kasich continues to look like he’s actively preparing for the possibility. He’s at least campaigning for issues he sees in the party that fall outside his immediate role as Governor. Aside from CA, he’s making a visit to New Hampshire for a “fireside chat” on April 3rd. His preferred choice of venues to discuss issues he has the party seems to line up with the early\* primary states.

- For those that didn’t notice CA moved it’s 2020 cycle up to Super Tuesday, March 3rd. That’s a pretty significant change for both parties.

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678/43 "2018-03-23T00:51:07Z")

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Anyone think [Flake’s](https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/arizona-senators-son-used-homophobic-anti-semetic-language-o?utm_term=.xokGabmJe#.beoJn8Qjm) [kids](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/06/23/sheriff-sen-jeff-flakes-son-was-in-charge-when-20-dogs-died-at-ariz-boarding-house/?utm_term=.4d0e3a23ef51) could get him in trouble?

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678/44 "2018-03-23T01:04:21Z")

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They would absolutely be used against him relentlessly. But even if both his kids were war heroes, Nobel laureates, and ran an orphanage for kittens, he wouldn’t have a chance at the presidency in 2020. He should just forget that and use his position as a Senator to protest Trump’s presidency as much as possible.

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**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678/45 "2018-03-23T01:30:17Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Probably means nothing right now, but an independent run would almost certainly put Arizona in play – and if he got any momentum going, could easily swing the election towards a landslide for the Dems, even putting states like Texas and even Utah into play. But right now that’s mostly wishful thinking.

He’s not popular here.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeff-flake-considers-2020-bid-as-r-or-i/810678/46 "2018-03-23T01:40:30Z")

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> [@Arizona\_Mike](#):
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> He’s not popular here.

He doesn’t need to be. If he gets just 5 or 10 percent of a state like Arizona, it could easily turn blue.

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