# Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third apparently lied under oath January 10, 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171 "2017-03-02T02:47:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/141 "2017-03-03T15:46:17Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So… > > It’s very hard, if not impossible to charge Sessions with any crime, [according to the NY times:](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/russia-sessions-attorney-general.html?ribbon-ad-idx=5&rref=politics&module=Ribbon&version=context®ion=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Politics&pgtype=article) > But now we hear that "Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records. " > > So where does this leave us? Sessions defense seems to be that he was speaking as a senator. But now it seems that we have evidence that he was not. Is he still clean as a whistle, prosecution-wise? He might’ve switched from “campaign mode” to “Senator mode” just for the one meeting? I’m sure that’s what he’ll claim. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/142 "2017-03-03T15:58:38Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > He might’ve switched from “campaign mode” to “Senator mode” just for the one meeting? I’m looking forward to him switching from “cabinet official mode” to “private citizen mode” in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/143 "2017-03-03T16:08:46Z")
For those that draw parallel’s to Clinton’s lying, I should point out that he lost his law license because an attorney is held to a higher standard than not violating criminal law: he has a general duty of candor that exceeds mere technically correct but deceptive answers. In my view, it was absolutely proper to sanction him like that. And Sessions is an attorney. I think it would be entirely proper to explore a bar complaint for this disgraceful conduct. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/144 "2017-03-03T16:23:46Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > For those that draw parallel’s to Clinton’s lying, I should point out that he lost his law license because an attorney is held to a higher standard than not violating criminal law: he has a general duty of candor that exceeds mere technically correct but deceptive answers. In my view, it was absolutely proper to sanction him like that. > > And Sessions is an attorney. I think it would be entirely proper to explore a bar complaint for this disgraceful conduct. Who could make such a complaint and how? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/145 "2017-03-03T16:38:03Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I’ve got another smoking gun. Sessions has said that he was wearing his Armed Services Committee hat when he had the meetings with the Russian ambassador. > > Well, I checked – [there’s no such thing!!!](https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=active&tbm=shop&q=%22Senate+Armed+Services+Committee+hat%22&*) Huh. I thought you could buy one of those in any good PX. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/146 "2017-03-03T16:42:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Huh. I thought you could buy one of those in any good PX. Oh those aren’t for Armed Services Committee members; they’re for the service providers. You know, the ones _with_ accountability but _without_ voting privileges. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/147 "2017-03-03T16:57:17Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > As noted down thread, he was under oath, he was at his confirmation hearing and presumably he was aware of the extent to which his contacts and/or dealings – _any_ dealings – with the Russians were of concern. In such a case, the correct answer was something like, “Except for 2 meetings with Russian Ambassador Kyslyak in my capacity as a member of the Senate, I have not had contact with the Russians during the presidential campaign.” > > Instead, he answered that "he did not “have communications with the Russians,” during the presidential campaign. Pretty misleading answer, because he obviously did. IOW, a lie. > > It certainly wasn’t incumbent upon Al Franken to narrow the question when he had no idea about the meetings. > > **Lucky Mike** , I agree Sessions should be given “the same pass” as Clinton. Clinton was impeached for his lie, and lost his license to practice law. What would be a congruent punishment for a sitting AG, do you think? No, I would want to ensure he is NEVER nominated or appointed for any future high level federal position… for national security reasons. People at much much lower levels are denied clearances, for a lot less. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/148 "2017-03-03T16:58:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Who could make such a complaint and how? At a guess, he’s licensed to practice in Alabama, at a minimum. So far as I know, any person can complain to the state bar there with evidence of an ethical violation. For a successful complaint, I expect that an attorney would be helpful in drafting the complaint and exhibits that show the violation. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/149 "2017-03-03T17:21:42Z")
Doesn’t seem to be very good at it. Wants to protect himself from possible accusations of perjury by taking the good ol’ “Don’t remember” line, then proceeds to supply minor details of the meeting. Apparently, to show off how good his memory is. Maybe he’s just the Ol’ Country Chicken from _Futurama_? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/150 "2017-03-03T17:24:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Doesn’t seem to be very good at it. Wants to protect himself from possible accusations of perjury by taking the good ol’ “Don’t remember” line, then proceeds to supply minor details of the meeting. Apparently, to show off how good his memory is. Maybe he’s just the Ol’ Country Chicken from _Futurama_? [Or maybe he’s OJ Simpson…](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Did_It) ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/151 "2017-03-03T19:03:46Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > For those that draw parallel’s to Clinton’s lying, I should point out that he lost his law license because an attorney is held to a higher standard than not violating criminal law: he has a general duty of candor that exceeds mere technically correct but deceptive answers. In my view, it was absolutely proper to sanction him like that. > > And Sessions is an attorney. I think it would be entirely proper to explore a bar complaint for this disgraceful conduct. That would be funny. A US Attorney General who was disbarred. “He’s the highest lawyer in the land, but he isn’t allowed to argue cases…” Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/152 "2017-03-03T20:34:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > But now we hear that "Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records. " > > So where does this leave us? Sessions defense seems to be that he was speaking as a senator. But now it seems that we have evidence that he was not. Is he still clean as a whistle, prosecution-wise? Pathetic twisting of facts by Democrats desperate to pin something on Sessions: > **[Get real, Democrats, there is no good reason for Sessions to resign](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/get-real-democrats-there-is-no-good-reason-for-sessions-to-resign)** > > The overblown rhetoric accompanying calls for Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ resignation Thursday reveals that the brouhaha is driven by mere political grandstanding, not a real concern over unlawful behavior. "So what are the two meetings that Sessions had? The first came at a conference on “Global Partners in Diplomacy,” where Sessions was the keynote speaker. Sponsored by the U.S. State Department, The Heritage Foundation, and several other organizations, it was held in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention. The conference was an educational program for ambassadors invited by the Obama State Department to observe the convention. The Obama State Department handled all of the coordination with ambassadors and their staff, of which there were about 100 at the conference. Apparently, after Sessions finished speaking, a small group of ambassadors—including the Russian ambassador—approached the senator as he left the stage and thanked him for his remarks. That’s the first “meeting.” And it’s hardly an occasion—much less a venue—in when a conspiracy to “interfere” with the November election could be hatched." ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/153 "2017-03-03T20:54:12Z")
Really, don’t you get tired of defending, what, 15 separate people on the same issue? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/154 "2017-03-03T20:55:19Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [Get real, Democrats, there is no good reason for Sessions to resign | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/02/get-real-democrats-there-is-no-good-reason-for-sessions-to-resign.html) Pathetic right-wing opinion. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/155 "2017-03-03T21:01:50Z")
It’s a silly opinion piece from the original Faux News organization. Bullshit, supported by lies. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/156 "2017-03-03T21:25:36Z")
“If you lie in the interview, don’t expect to keep the job.” ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/157 "2017-03-03T22:02:05Z")
> [@SingleMalt](#): > > “If you lie in the interview, don’t expect to keep the job.” Don’t you know? We hold our public servants to _lower_ standards than we are held to. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/158 "2017-03-03T22:11:18Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Don’t you know? We hold our public servants to _lower_ standards than we are held to. There is truth in this, alas. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/159 "2017-03-03T22:56:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Really, don’t you get tired of defending, what, 15 separate people on the same issue? It’s subvertles all the way down! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171/160 "2017-03-04T03:40:48Z")
Mike Pence says “The President and I have full confidence in the Attorney General.” That’s usually the kiss of death, right? Like Michael telling Carlo he’s not going to be killed. > **[Pence: ‘The President And I Have Full Confidence In The Attorney General’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pence-confidence-attorney-general)** > > Vice President Mike Pence defended Attorney General Jeff Sessions after Sessions announced Thursday that he would recuse himself from matters relating to the Trump campaign at the Department of… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jefferson-beauregard-sessions-the-third-apparently-lied-under-oath-january-10-2017/781171.md?page=9)