# Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 7, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658 "2019-07-07T05:03:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/301 "2019-07-19T18:06:42Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Apropos of this, I just saw this on Facebook;
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> > America 2019, where the president’s sexual assault victim gets pushed out of the news by the president’s concentration camps for children, which gets pushed out of the news by the president’s child-sex-trafficking bestie which gets pushed out of the news by the president’s racism.  
> > -Jeff Tiedrich

While I’ll grant that none of those is inconsequential nor lacking in the zone of villainy, I still maintain that Trump’s political immunity is the weakest in the pedophile zone.

Sexual Assault - She’s lying  
Concentration camps - Racism! \m/ 😃 \m/  
Racism - Racism! \m/ 😃 \m/  
Pedophiles - \_\_\_\_\_

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/302 "2019-07-19T18:08:59Z")

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Sexual Assault is more "Who cares ? "

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/303 "2019-07-19T18:49:54Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Was the mysterious person who used this fake foreign passport and then gave it to Epstein his twin brother? Otherwise how did he manage to use a passport with Epstein’s face on it?

One of my arguments was that TBoL had the 10 Commandments in it, so maybe Jeffrey can say he was visiting the Holy Land or something.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/304 "2019-07-25T04:02:38Z")

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Breaking news: Epstein has been found in his cell with injuries. Suicide attempt, maybe?

> **[Jeffrey Epstein on suicide watch after accused sex trafficker is found...](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/24/jeffrey-epstein-injured-in-federal-jail-in-manhattan.html)**
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> Jeffrey Epstein was on the floor of his cell in a fetal position, was semi-conscious and had marks on his neck, sources said.

Jeffrey Epstein on suicide watch after accused sex trafficker is found injured in New York jail

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/305 "2019-07-25T09:34:52Z")

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Crap. In our betting pool, I had a guessed his “suicide” would be later in the year (October). Although not successful, this means I may have been too optimistic about his remaining lifespan.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/306 "2019-07-25T12:35:12Z")

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Reports this early morning are not very clear. One report I read (or heard) said that the injury is very superficial and may have been played up a bit. Yet a different report claims that they are investigating another inmate. But he is now on suicide watch.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/307 "2019-07-25T14:30:41Z")

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He just got overly enthusiastic with auto erotic asphyxiation.

Either that, or THEY tried to eliminate him and something went wrong.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/308 "2019-07-25T17:11:31Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Reports this early morning are not very clear. One report I read (or heard) said that the injury is very superficial and may have been played up a bit. Yet a different report claims that they are investigating another inmate. But he is now on suicide watch.

“But another source said Epstein’s injuries were not serious, and raised the possibility that he may have used the incident to try obtain a transfer from the jail.”

This seems very plausible to me.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/309 "2019-07-25T17:18:30Z")

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If he is convicted and appeals and then kills himself before his appeal is finished, his conviction will be vacated. I hope that no one lets that happen.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/310 "2019-07-25T17:24:48Z")

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Eh, his bio will just read: “After being sentenced on X counts of Y, for Z years, Epstein killed himself while awaiting appeal.”

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/311 "2019-07-25T17:51:55Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Eh, his bio will just read: “After being sentenced on X counts of Y, for Z years, Epstein killed himself while awaiting appeal.”

Would it hamper civil suits files against his estate?

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/312 "2019-07-25T18:05:00Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Would it hamper civil suits files against his estate?

IANAL, but I don’t see how. Any civil suit dealing with actions that predate his suicide should still be able to go forward.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/313 "2019-07-25T19:18:28Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Would it hamper civil suits files against his estate?

> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> IANAL, but I don’t see how. Any civil suit dealing with actions that predate his suicide should still be able to go forward.

Presuming that he’s still alive, and his conviction[s] upheld on appeal, would plaintiffs in a civil action be permitted to introduce his conviction[s] into the record?

Presuming that the answer to the above is “YES,” now let’s presume that his conviction is vacated as a consequence of his successful pre-appeal suicide. Does the plaintiff have the power to have the fact of his (now vacated) conviction introduced as evidence?

Putting him into a medically-induced coma following his first suicide attempt would be WRONG, wouldn’t it? Drat.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/314 "2019-07-25T19:22:32Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> If he is convicted and appeals and then kills himself before his appeal is finished, his conviction will be vacated. I hope that no one lets that happen.

I don’t believe this is always the case. It varies by state.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/315 "2019-07-25T19:36:20Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Putting him into a medically-induced coma following his first suicide attempt would be WRONG, wouldn’t it? Drat.

And far too merciful. He should be awake to suffer.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/316 "2019-07-25T20:29:48Z")

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Well now I’m super curious about where he is leaving his money.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/317 "2019-07-25T20:46:06Z")

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My guess is that another inmate was paid off to send Epstein a message about why he should never, ever turn on Trump.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/318 "2019-07-25T20:55:18Z")

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And ClintonBodyCount is trending on Twitter.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/319 "2019-07-25T20:57:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And ClintonBodyCount is trending on Twitter.

Makes me even a little more confident that it was a Trumper job. Projecting is their specialty.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/320 "2019-07-25T21:00:23Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> My guess is that another inmate was paid off to send Epstein a message about why he should never, ever turn on Trump.

I sure hope he isn’t in the prison general population. Yet.

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