# Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658 "2019-07-07T05:03:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/421 "2019-08-10T15:59:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > OK, the MAGAts are claiming Clinton had him croaked. We’ve got to spread the word that Trump did it. We have an opportunity to create a very nice conspiracy theory, and we shouldn’t let it pass! 😛 😛 😛 I posted mine a couple weeks ago: Ivanka was “modeling” for Esptein and the pictures and/or video were being sent back to Trump by his own request. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/422 "2019-08-10T16:01:24Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I just now looked and it now says “Killed in prison by the Clintons”. What the fuck. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/423 "2019-08-10T16:04:22Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I just now looked and it now says “Killed in prison by the Clintons”. Now it’s back to “Found dead in prison of apparent suicide.” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/424 "2019-08-10T16:04:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > **Acsnray** : I agree completely. Thirded. It has been said as a joke that suicide is the sincerest form of apology. Bullshit; it’s the clearest way to dodge your fuckup. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/425 "2019-08-10T16:07:15Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > What the fuck. People are in a battle changing it back and forth. The Wikipedia gods will likely lock it down soon, probably with it saying something like “died by apparent suicide”. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/426 "2019-08-10T16:14:07Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > People are in a battle changing it back and forth. The Wikipedia gods will likely lock it down soon, probably with it saying something like “died by apparent suicide”. The fake “warning” I got from two troll assholes was amusing at least. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/427 "2019-08-10T16:15:20Z")
Alright well if we’re more in the mood for conspiracy theories than discussions of practicalities then I’ll throw in that he’s been moved to witness protection and the death was called by the FBI. Politically, they would have to charge him with a crime in order to satisfy the public. In terms of taking down the largest number of bad guys, though, they needed to be able to cut a deal and, of course, you can’t cut a deal with someone if you’re required by the public to fully prosecute the crime, no deals. Thus, faked death, new identity, deal cutting commences. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/428 "2019-08-10T16:21:36Z")
If there’s a conspiracy, it would be more about why he wasn’t on suicide watch. Not so much actually offing him, just letting him know that things were going to get really bad for him, and making sure no one was watching. Or, yeah, Sage Rat’s one. Damn, you weave a good conspiracy. It’s both wacko and yet oddly plausible sounding. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/429 "2019-08-10T16:23:10Z")
Maybe it wasn’t suicide, maybe it was erotic asphyxiation. I mean, if we’re gonna speculate. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/430 "2019-08-10T16:23:53Z")
Can we expect the documents and other evidence related to his case to be released now? Or do they remain under seal? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/431 "2019-08-10T16:27:45Z")
I don’t think anything is doing more to convince me that Epstein’s death was a hit more than the obviously coordinated right-wing response to this, arising as it did _so early_ on a _Saturday_ AM. The Kremlin was ready. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/432 "2019-08-10T16:28:42Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > the death was called by the FBI That should be “faked”. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/433 "2019-08-10T16:32:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I don’t think anything is doing more to convince me that Epstein’s death was a hit more than the obviously coordinated right-wing response to this, arising as it did _so early_ on a _Saturday_ AM. The Kremlin was ready. Kremlin would be the most likely of all suspects, if it was an assassination. Business people and famous people don’t have the connections (usually. Trump knows a lot of mafia - but he’s a wimp and probably wouldn’t think of it.) If you see Trump drop the sanctions or draw back from Iran or approve weapon sells to Turkey, in the next month, it might be an indication that a favor was done by the Kremlin, after Trump briefed them on what evidence Epstein might have had on him. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/434 "2019-08-10T16:32:55Z")
Will no one rid me of this meddlesome pedophile? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/435 "2019-08-10T16:33:07Z")
After Sage Rat’s amazing detective work on Ilhan Omar, I can’t wait to see what he digs up here. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/436 "2019-08-10T16:35:54Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The fake “warning” I got from two troll assholes was amusing at least. It may not actually be fake. They may be invoking the [three revert rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:3RR). I personally find it idiotic. It favors the vandal, as if both the vandal and the legitimate user do 3 reverts, you’re stuck with what the vandal wrote. It should be more like the page locking policy, where the page goes back to where it was before the edit war, and the two people have to hash it out on the discussion page. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/437 "2019-08-10T16:44:59Z")
As long as we’re fueling conspiracy theories, _assuming_ that he had been taken off of suicide watch, why would that have happened? As someone on CNN said this morning, those on suicide watch are typically those with the most to lose. Epstein was clearly on the road to becoming one of the biggest losers of all time. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/438 "2019-08-10T16:49:12Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Can we expect the documents and other evidence related to his case to be released now? Or do they remain under seal? _Some_ of the evidence should stay under seal, if not get destroyed, once it is used to convict relevant parties. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/439 "2019-08-10T16:50:15Z")
As of now, the Wikipedia page is on [semi-protection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy#semi). Wondering if/when they’ll lock it to all edits. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/440 "2019-08-10T16:55:10Z")
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