# Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658 "2019-07-07T05:03:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/521 "2019-08-11T03:58:36Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > What the fuck are you people talking about? Epstein was pimping out Ihlan Omar to her own brother! Do try to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/522 "2019-08-11T04:13:53Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > Epstein was pimping out Ihlan Omar to her own brother! Do try to keep up. Indeed. They were doing it in the library, with the candlestick. (You can’t prove they didn’t!) ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/523 "2019-08-11T05:02:32Z")
The bipartisan unity I have actually seen in multiple places (online) in regards to the suspicious circumstances of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged suicide is really remarkable. Even talking with neighbors on different sides of the aisle. It may be a sad state of affairs for people to get along despite ideological differences because of a filthy pedophile dying, but at least it shows we all have the same goal, to make sick fucking perverts accountable and brought to justice and wondering who his cohorts were and when/how they should be brought to justice. This actually does seem like a legitimate conspiracy given the totality of circumstances being just a bit off kilter. This has a “feel” of more than just an institutional fuck-up or correctional guard falling asleep in his ‘bubble’. Unless there is footage of him actually killing himself and/or an autopsy done by someone verifiable and independent, I will think someone with a lot of money and power wanted him quiet, because he probably was going to squeal. That or he paid and faked it like the 1980’s movie ‘F/X’ and escaped to an island, or Witness Protection. I know, too early to judge/not enough info but I bet this story will go nowhere, it will just dissipate into thin air and won’t be spoken of again. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/524 "2019-08-11T06:59:20Z")
Tamerlane: Epstein said he wanted to spread his sperm throughout humanity. I find it difficult to believe that someone with an ego that monumental would kill himself. He got a light sentence once because of his money and position, and I imagine he wasvain enough to think he could do so again. It’s going to take a hell of a lot to convince me he committed suicide. At this point, I stick by my previous statement: Some of of the 1 percenters had him killed to protect themselves. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/525 "2019-08-11T08:22:02Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > He hung out in Palm Beach which is where Trump goes to Mar a Lago HE recruited one of his victims, Virginia Roberts, when she was an underage girl wearing a skimpy outfit working at Mar a Lago. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/526 "2019-08-11T08:52:47Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Here’s something I haven’t seen mentioned yet, from this article on Yahoo News: [Jeffrey Epstein’s death is a perfect storm for conspiracy theories](https://news.yahoo.com/jeffrey-epstein-death-conspiracy-theories-163046929.html) > > “Epstein, early in his career, was a protégé of Donald Barr, the father of Attorney General Barr, who hired him to teach at New York’s prestigious Dalton School despite his lack of a college degree.” > > Apparently AG Barr was “livid” and “appalled” and said his death “raises serious questions that must be answered.” Indeed… Not mentioned? It was discussed extensively, as far back as page 4: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=878333&highlight=Barr&page=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=878333&highlight=Barr&page=4) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/527 "2019-08-11T13:03:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > You’re probably right, Tamerlane. The chances of a prison hit are slim, but his death does look at least a wee bit suspicious under the circumstances – more so the timing than any actual physical evidence. Oh, don’t get me wrong, I believe he killed himself. But I also believe that it was entirely preventable had prevention been the goal. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/528 "2019-08-11T13:32:39Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > In the Maricopa County jail (downtown Phoenix) “suicide watch” means the person is stripped naked and placed in a small private cell that has nothing at all in it. I believe the lights are on 24 hours, and the person is checked all the time. IIRC they pee and poop in a hole in the floor. It’s humiliating and uncomfortable. It’s not something you want to be put in! > > (No I wasn’t confined there. it was a tour.) Was the tour recently or during the Arpaio era (may he rot in hell when the time comes)? ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/529 "2019-08-11T13:34:40Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > What the fuck are you people talking about? There’s a thread about Ms. Omar in the pit, alleging she claimed her brother was her husband to get him into the country. The source is … incredible (as in not credible), unbelievable (literally), and so forth. Snopes said this is unproven: [Did U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar Marry Her Brother? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/) I think she’s an anti-Semite, and critics should focus on that, instead of inventing new reasons to hate her. Link: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879054](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879054) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/530 "2019-08-11T13:43:26Z")
> [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](#): > > Tamerlane: Epstein said he wanted to spread his sperm throughout humanity. I find it difficult to believe that someone with an ego that monumental would kill himself. > > He got a light sentence once because of his money and position, and I imagine he wasvain enough to think he could do so again. > > It’s going to take a hell of a lot to convince me he committed suicide. At this point, I stick by my previous statement: Some of of the 1 percenters had him killed to protect themselves. The difference is that he was denied bail and he was looking at a really, really long time in with hard-core offenders. He would have been a target in prison, and he probably suspected as much. A guy with his ego and wealth, going from living like a king to possibly living in constant fear for your safety, being completely confined, and having every aspect of your life controlled…it was all probably too much. Perhaps in the initial days following his arrest he figured he had at least a snowball’s chance to get out on bail, enjoy home confinement while his high-powered legal team figured out how to refute the charges, maybe even get himself smuggled out of the country. When the judge refused bail, it was game over. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/531 "2019-08-11T13:46:01Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Epstein killing himself doesn’t preclude a conspiracy. If someone took him off suicide watch and made sure he had the tools available to kill himself, that would count. I do wonder how that happened. It reminds me of the questions surrounding Whitey Bulger’s death and how he was transferred out of protective custody (IIRC!). This would be the second high-profile lapse resulting in death in the federal prison system in the past two years ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/532 "2019-08-11T15:32:56Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Epstein killing himself doesn’t preclude a conspiracy. If someone took him off suicide watch and made sure he had the tools available to kill himself, that would count. That’s as close as I’m willing to go WRT conspiracy theories, though taking him off suicide watch was at least as likely due to incompetence as some nefarious plot. As much as I’d love to see Trump implicated, he and his cronies are far too inept to pull off something like this, and it doesn’t seem that Epstein was much of a threat to the Orange Peril anyway – who incidentally is now tweeting away that for sure the Clintons had Epstein offed. Not the kind of thing one usually hears from the President of the USA, but we’re used to it by now. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/533 "2019-08-11T16:11:04Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > … As much as I’d love to see Trump implicated, he and his cronies are far too inept to pull off something like this, and it doesn’t seem that Epstein was much of a threat to the Orange Peril anyway – who incidentally is now tweeting away that for sure the Clintons had Epstein offed. … AG Barr certainly could pull such a thing off. Again, as much as I believe this was a straight up no-funny-business suicide, why the watch was lifted is an important question to have answered. Which brings up Barr. As far as accountability for that decision, expect some shit to be rolled downhill forthwith. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/534 "2019-08-11T16:14:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > That’s as close as I’m willing to go WRT conspiracy theories, though taking him off suicide watch was at least as likely due to incompetence as some nefarious plot. As much as I’d love to see Trump implicated, he and his cronies are far too inept to pull off something like this, and it doesn’t seem that Epstein was much of a threat to the Orange Peril anyway – who incidentally is now tweeting away that for sure the Clintons had Epstein offed. Not the kind of thing one usually hears from the President of the USA, but we’re used to it by now. I didn’t seriously think Trump would have anything to do with this death… Until Trump himself started tweeting away about a Clinton conspiracy theory. Trump projects so much that you can be assured that if he accuses someone of something, then he did that exact thing himself. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/535 "2019-08-11T16:24:17Z")
I’m waiting for some kind of other shoe to drop. I can’t believe that someone with Epstein’s inflated ego would kill himself if it meant giving up the chance to drag down some of the associates who (at least in his opinion, and perhaps for real) hung him out to dry. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/536 "2019-08-11T16:25:09Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/537 "2019-08-11T16:46:20Z")
We have a mob boss as President, his hand-chosen consigliere as AG, and a “billionaire pedophile” with a treasure trove (literally) of secrets about rich and powerful men including said mob boss President… and y’all are arguing for “incompetence”. OK. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/538 "2019-08-11T17:10:38Z")
NY Times: “Breaking News: Jeffrey Epstein was left alone and not closely monitored before his suicide, in apparent violation of jail procedures, officials said.” [https://t.co/cxxS33zgVN](https://t.co/cxxS33zgVN) > [@](#): > > Jeffrey Epstein,the financier who hanged himself in a federal jail in Manhattan, was supposed to have been checked by guards every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not being followed the night before he was found,a law-enforcement official with knowledge of his detention said. > > In addition, the jail had transferred his cellmate and allowed Mr. Epstein to be housed alone in a cell just two weeks after he had been taken off suicide watch, a decision that also violated the jail’s normal procedure, two officials said. Didn’t Barr have Epstein suddenly transferred to this jail because “Rikers was too insecure” or something? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/539 "2019-08-11T17:49:32Z")
This whole thing is giving me Epstein-Barr. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/540 "2019-08-11T18:01:32Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > This whole thing is giving me Epstein-Barr. It’s gone viral. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658.md?page=28)