# Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658 "2019-07-07T05:03:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/121 "2019-07-09T23:08:04Z")
From Wiki - The Later 727’s only had a range of 2700 miles. Transatlantic possible but from a short google, would need many modifications. American Financier Jeffrey Epstein owned a private 727 nicknamed the “Lolita Express”. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/122 "2019-07-09T23:13:09Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I checked out Fox while I was at home for lunch. They are pushing hard the tweet from Christine Pelosi about some “faves” being outed in the case. Of course, she said Democrats and Republicans, but they are conveniently leaving out the Republican part. And, of course, shoehorning “Bill Clinton” into any sentence they can. I saw the Pelosi article as well. The one thing that concerned me that I read was that on several of the Clinton trips with Epstein, he would ditch his secret service coverage for those specific trips. Hmmmm. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/123 "2019-07-10T00:43:55Z")
What’s driving me crazy about this case is that I feel that the more of a political football it becomes - and that’s only going to continue to increase - the LESS likely it is that the scumbag is going to be dealt with properly by the court. I’m not a lawyer but I have the intuitive feeling that the more media attention his trial receives, the more likely it is that there will be a mistrial or some other failure of the justice system. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/124 "2019-07-10T01:10:26Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > His rise to wealth seems rather improbable. He dropped out of two colleges (Cooper Union and NYU). The Wikipedia entry describing his career starts this way: > > The source for a lot of that information is [this article](http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/) in New York magazine, published in 2002, before his legal problems in Florida. Good article, thanks. I know that a lot of these mathematical types have come up with algorithms and/or computer models that have made them very successful traders. And a lot of them are rich and it’s legit. But it’s hard to get Epstein rich doing that. Because you can’t really put massive sums into these intricate trades. It’s like betting at the track— you might bet a couple of hundred on the long shot and make a good return. But if you tried to bet 100K on the longshot, it wouldn’t be the long shot anymore. It’s amazing how blinding money and success can be. And #QANON is twittering tonight. Because ITS HAPPENING. THE STORM IS HERE. The pizzagate pedophile ring is coming down. Mass imprisonments at Guantanamo are coming soon. They were right! They told us so! The Trump connection is strangely missing from their narrative. And Acosta is pretending that there’s all this new evidence, and the reason Acosta let him off easy before Was a lack of evidence. Liar. Spineless wimp. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/acosta-defends-epstein-deal/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/acosta-defends-epstein-deal/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/125 "2019-07-10T01:39:18Z")
[Shopping](https://theintercept.com/2019/07/09/jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-shredder) of the rich and famous: > [@](#): > > …Epstein received a shipment at his Palm Beach home from the port in the U.S. Virgin Islands closest to his home there, according to maritime shipping records compiled by ImportGenius and provided to The Intercept. The shipment was a 53-pound shredder… > > …On March 11, 2019, Epstein got a new shipment from the port in the U.S. Virgin Islands. This time, it was sent to his New York townhouse, and it’s listed in maritime records as a tile and carpet extractor that weighed 191 pounds… When it comes to serious [DEL]records[/DEL] waste paper disposal and [DEL]DNA[/DEL] dust cleanup, the light cheap flimsy models simply won’t do! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/126 "2019-07-10T02:07:16Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > In fairness, “future pedophile” is unlikely to appear in a background check. In further fairness, not having completed a college degree does not automatically make someone “unqualified” to teach high school. I myself had an excellent high school English teacher who was a twentyish English major taking a year off from college. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/127 "2019-07-10T02:43:57Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > What’s driving me crazy about this case is that I feel that the more of a political football it becomes - and that’s only going to continue to increase - the LESS likely it is that the scumbag is going to be dealt with properly by the court. I’m not a lawyer but I have the intuitive feeling that the more media attention his trial receives, the more likely it is that there will be a mistrial or some other failure of the justice system. Ideally this should be non-political. People tied into Epstein’s behavior are republicans, democrats and non-political people both domestic and foreign. But sadly because high ranking people on both parties are tied into it, that creates an incentive to bury what happened and not investigate. The same way Obama said ‘we have to look forward, not backwards’ about the torture program under Bush because a true investigation would implicate high ranking people in both parties (some of the torture program started under Clinton & Gore for example). It sucks. I hope the SDNY does the right thing, and I sincerely hope NY state functions as a backup in case the SDNY case is interfered with by Barr & Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/128 "2019-07-10T03:24:16Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > It’s a long standing GOP tradition: Wow, a Republican this or that. You must be Soooo proud of yourself. Maybe list all of the Democrats doing the same thing so we can decide which group is more corrupt. Or not, your stuck backing Hillary who supported Bill and shafted Bernie. Bonus question, what is the Clinton Global Initiative doing nowadays? Did they fix Haiti with Billions donated to them? ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/129 "2019-07-10T03:36:15Z")
Starr obtained from Attorney General Janet Reno permission to investigate the matter. Wait! What the hell? She should have recused herself. What corrupt double-dealing. Anyone here that’s a Democrat appalled by this? Hillary was up to her eyeballs in bimbo eruptions. And you want to smear Trump. Sad, little people aren’t you. Carry on with your self-righteousness because, that’s all you got except for projection. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/130 "2019-07-10T03:37:06Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Wow, a Republican this or that. You must be Soooo proud of yourself. Maybe list all of the Democrats doing the same thing so we can decide which group is more corrupt. Or not, your stuck backing Hillary who supported Bill and shafted Bernie. Bonus question, what is the Clinton Global Initiative doing nowadays? Did they fix Haiti with Billions donated to them? Don’t you mean “Billary?” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/131 "2019-07-10T03:44:08Z")
Yo, Jeff, you might just maybe want to consider a tad looking at a reliable source for your information. Lunatic blogs don’t count as such. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/132 "2019-07-10T03:45:15Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > …your stuck backing Hillary who supported Bill and shafted Bernie. There’s about 2 dozen democrats running for President right now and none of them are named Clinton. Do try to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/133 "2019-07-10T03:48:55Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > American Financier Jeffrey Epstein owned a private 727 nicknamed the “Lolita Express”. “That’s just lazy writing.” - Deadpool ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/134 "2019-07-10T03:51:57Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > There’s about 2 dozen democrats running for President right now and none of them are named Clinton. Do try to keep up. He only knows what his Russian handler(s) tell him. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/135 "2019-07-10T03:55:59Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > In further fairness, not having completed a college degree does not automatically make someone “unqualified” to teach high school. This was one of the most most prestigious private schools in NYC. He may have done a great job, but I think most of his colleagues were older than 20 and had college degrees. Somehow even crazier is that his foot in the door at Bear Stearns is that one of his high school student’s parents was an exec at Bear Stearns. That seems crazy to me. “My math teacher is sooo smart.” “Give me his contact info. I’ve got a job for him.” ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/136 "2019-07-10T04:44:59Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Starr obtained from Attorney General Janet Reno permission to investigate the matter. > Wait! What the hell? She should have recused herself. What corrupt double-dealing. Anyone here that’s a Democrat appalled by this? Hillary was up to her eyeballs in bimbo eruptions. And you want to smear Trump. Sad, little people aren’t you. Carry on with your self-righteousness because, that’s all you got except for projection. It is almost certain that the Democrats are hypcritical when it comes to Clinton vs. Trump. Is the right answer to that to somehow hypocritically blame the Democrats for electing Donald “Stupid Clinton” Trump into the office? Or, is to be out on the front trying to get con artists, creeps, and crooks out of politics, party affiliation be damned? I would submit the first option is not a real option and you don’t come out looking none too bright by attempting it. See also (from my blog): > **[Loyalty](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2019/02/26/loyalty/)** > > I once made the argument that a person who practices Islam is more to blame for Islamic terrorism than a person who is Christian or Shinto or anything else, regardless of whether that person is inv… ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/137 "2019-07-10T05:46:21Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > This was one of the most most prestigious private schools in NYC. He may have done a great job, but I think most of his colleagues were older than 20 and had college degrees. > > Somehow even crazier is that his foot in the door at Bear Stearns is that one of his high school student’s parents was an exec at Bear Stearns. That seems crazy to me. > > “My math teacher is sooo smart.” > “Give me his contact info. I’ve got a job for him.” Not that crazy. It’s actually somewhat common for college kids to get teaching jobs at prestigious private schools, especially if they are alumni. I was taught by a few at my (not that prestigious) prep school. There are no credential requirements to teach at a private school, so often it’s a case of “hey, remember that kid from a couple years ago who aced AP calc? He’s looking for a job while he takes a year off school.” “OK, sounds good.” Epstein didn’t go to Dalton, but he would have easily been associated with plenty of Dalton alums at Cooper Union. I don’t find it difficult to believe that one of them would have mentioned to his parents that his math-whiz pal was looking for work and it turned out a teaching position was available. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/138 "2019-07-10T12:35:36Z")
Saw this item today. Deja vu with the whataboutism regarding Bill Clinton as a deflection. The article is about the reactions to Trump’s Hollywood Access pussy-grabbing comments: [‘Mother Is Not Going to Like This’: The 48 Hours That Almost Brought Down Trump](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/10/american-carnage-excerpt-access-hollywood-tape-227269) _The exclusive story of how Trump survived the Access Hollywood tape._ > [@](#): > > For his part, Trump had agreed after some cajoling to offer a nonapology apology, issuing a statement to the Post that read, “This was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course—not even close. I apologize if anyone was offended.” > > … > > Just after midnight, on Saturday, October 8, the campaign posted a 90-second video clip to Trump’s Facebook page. Against a dark superimposed horizon of illuminated skyscrapers, Trump looked directly into the camera. “I’ve never said I’m a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I’m not. I’ve said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me know these words don’t reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize,” he said. > > Trump added, “I’ve said some foolish things, but there is a big difference between the words and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women and Hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed, and intimidated his victims. We will discuss this more in the coming days. See you at the debate on Sunday.” So let’s point out how bad Bill Clinton is in written and video statements. The “Bill Clinton has actually abused women and Hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed, and intimidated his victims” is especially rich coming from Trump. Trump is all about projection of his traits onto others. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/139 "2019-07-10T12:50:58Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Not that crazy. It’s actually somewhat common for college kids to get teaching jobs at prestigious private schools, especially if they are alumni. I was taught by a few at my (not that prestigious) prep school. > > There are no credential requirements to teach at a private school, so often it’s a case of “hey, remember that kid from a couple years ago who aced AP calc? He’s looking for a job while he takes a year off school.” “OK, sounds good.” > > Epstein didn’t go to Dalton, but he would have easily been associated with plenty of Dalton alums at Cooper Union. I don’t find it difficult to believe that one of them would have mentioned to his parents that his math-whiz pal was looking for work and it turned out a teaching position was available. I think Lance Turbo is talking about his next job: how does one leverage a teaching job into a position at Bear Sterns? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/140 "2019-07-10T13:55:56Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I think Lance Turbo is talking about his next job: how does one leverage a teaching job into a position at Bear Sterns? Well, also not that crazy. Up until the late 90s most investment banks didn’t require a college degree to get your foot in the door of the trading desk. If you were “good with numbers” and could make a good impression you could get into a training program and then it’s sink or swim. Make money for the firm, get a permanent position; lose money, GTFO and make way for the next batch of hopefuls. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658.md?page=8)