# Jeffrey Epsteins arrest for child sex-trafficking. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 9, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751 "2019-07-09T02:33:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/1 "2019-07-09T02:33:13Z")
I see Bill Clinton was a ‘frequent-flyer’ with him to various locales. I wonder who else has been serviced by Mr. Epsteins ‘Lolitas’ ? Should be interesting, to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/2 "2019-07-09T02:38:30Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > I see Bill Clinton was a ‘frequent-flyer’ with him to various locales. I wonder who else has been serviced by Mr. Epsteins ‘Lolitas’ ? Should be interesting, to say the least. Most likely Trump. He’s the one who observed that Epstein had a thing for very young girls. And Trump has a thing for his daughters. There hasn’t been a single allegation that Clinton did anymore than get rides on the plane. If you have something concrete, cite it. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/3 "2019-07-09T02:42:35Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > I see Bill Clinton was a ‘frequent-flyer’ with him to various locales. This random attempt at distracting with “Clinton innuendo” isn’t working over in the Pit thread, either, just so you know. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/4 "2019-07-09T02:44:33Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > I see Bill Clinton was a ‘frequent-flyer’ with him to various locales. I wonder who else has been serviced by Mr. Epsteins ‘Lolitas’ ? Should be interesting, to say the least. Just so we’re clear about this “debate”, where did you “see” this “information” and what do you, or “they”, mean by “‘frequent-flyer’”? ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/5 "2019-07-09T02:48:18Z")
He did have connections to Clinton. Donald Trump also proclaimed a shout-out to Epstein several years ago, in an interview, which openly referenced Epstein’s preference for “younger” women, with a tone of enthusiastic admiration. Everyone is, of course, trying to politicize the issue, but to me the fact that he was close with two different presidents and had many connections in high society including Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of an extremely corrupt British tycoon, and Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, means that Epstein was part of the upper echelon of international high society. Leaving aside the politics completely, I don’t believe for a second that he is alone in his sex trafficking activities - I believe, similarly to the Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK, that he has a great number of enablers and co-conspirators, and that he is just the tip of a much larger iceberg. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/6 "2019-07-09T02:48:58Z")
We’ll, that settles it - I’m not voting for Bill Clinton in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/7 "2019-07-09T03:11:18Z")
What’s the debate here? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/8 "2019-07-09T03:19:43Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Most likely Trump. And there’s [this](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531): > [@](#): > > In 1994, Trump went to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped a 13-year-old girl that night in what was a “savage sexual attack,” according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by “Jane Doe.” The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor. > [@running\_coach](#): > > He’s the one who observed that Epstein had a thing for very young girls. And Trump has a thing for his daughters. He is also capable of rape, since he raped his first wife Ivana Trump (according to his first wife Ivana Trump): > [@](#): > > During a court deposition, Ivana Trump—Donald’s first wife and mother to Eric, Donald Jr. and Ivanka—accused the president of raping her in 1989. The private account was described in former _Newsweek_ reporter Harry Hurt III’s 1993 book, _Lost Tycoon_. It details the alleged “violent assault,” in which Trump pulled out fistfuls of his ex-wife’s hair after receiving a painful operation on his scalp. > > “… According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidants, ‘he raped me.’” ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/9 "2019-07-09T03:20:15Z")
Moving from GD to MPSIMS. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/10 "2019-07-09T03:54:52Z")
So, breaking news about a well known Democrat Supporter is Mundane? I guess, it is typical. Anyway, (yawn) obligatory cites > **[Opinion | We need to know the truth about Jeffrey Epstein and his friends....](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/08/we-need-know-truth-about-jeffrey-epstein-his-friends-all-it/?utm_term=.2d4c889123ff)** > > Rich, depraved men are tolerated across the political spectrum. This is a chance to indict everyone, not to score partisan points. [https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html) Funny though, how y’all circle the wagons real quick. I suppose you don’t believe Bill ejaculated on Ms. Lewinsky either? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/11 "2019-07-09T03:58:42Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > So, breaking news about a well known Democrat Supporter is Mundane? I guess, it is typical. > Anyway, (yawn) obligatory cites > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/08/we-need-know-truth-about-jeffrey-epstein-his-friends-all-it/?utm\_term=.2d4c889123ff](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/08/we-need-know-truth-about-jeffrey-epstein-his-friends-all-it/?utm_term=.2d4c889123ff) > [DocumentCloud](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html) > > Funny though, how y’all circle the wagons real quick. I suppose you don’t believe Bill ejaculated on Ms. Lewinsky either? Last I heard, that was consensual, and she was an adult. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/12 "2019-07-09T03:58:43Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > So, breaking news about a well known Democrat Supporter is Mundane? I guess, it is typical. > Anyway, (yawn) obligatory cites > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/08/we-need-know-truth-about-jeffrey-epstein-his-friends-all-it/?utm\_term=.2d4c889123ff](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/08/we-need-know-truth-about-jeffrey-epstein-his-friends-all-it/?utm_term=.2d4c889123ff) > [DocumentCloud](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html) > > Funny though, how y’all circle the wagons real quick. I suppose you don’t believe Bill ejaculated on Ms. Lewinsky either? Hmmm. What about breaking news about a buddy of Trump’s - one that Trump said liked the young girls? One that was accused by name by some of the victims? Was that the debate you were trying to have? ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/13 "2019-07-09T04:00:10Z")
More citations. > **[7-8-19-US-Bail-Memo-Epstein.pdf](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6184560/7-8-19-US-Bail-Memo-Epstein.pdf)** > > 155.06 KB ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/14 "2019-07-09T04:01:19Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Hmmm. What about breaking news about a buddy of Trump’s - one that Trump said liked the young girls? One that was accused by name by some of the victims? > > Was that the debate you were trying to have? Sure, let ALL the names come out, every single one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/15 "2019-07-09T04:03:33Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Last I heard, that was consensual, and she was an adult. Most folks believe, that a Boss and Employee relationship, assuming you think President is no more important than a Supervisor; is NOT consensual because of imbalance of power. But, you already knew that. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/16 "2019-07-09T04:04:02Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Sure, let ALL the names come out, every single one of them. Ok. Based on this one single post, taken at face value, I totally agree. It’s your weak ass insinuations I have problems with. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/17 "2019-07-09T04:05:18Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Most folks believe, that a Boss and Employee relationship, assuming you think President is no more important than a Supervisor; is NOT consensual because of imbalance of power. But, you already knew that. I agree it’s not ethical. But it is far from fucking criminal. Do you see the difference? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/18 "2019-07-09T04:12:43Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Sure, let ALL the names come out, every single one of them. Great! Any reason why you only mentioned Epstein and Clinton in your…ahem… Debate? ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/19 "2019-07-09T04:13:26Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ok. Based on this one single post, taken at face value, I totally agree. > > It’s your weak ass insinuations I have problems with. I cited the freaking Flight Manifests, submitted into evidence. You’re the winner of ‘weak-ass’ insinuating. ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/20 "2019-07-09T04:15:38Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Great! Any reason why you only mentioned Epstein and Clinton in your…ahem… Debate? Clintons flights with Epstein were well known. Both Bill AND Hillary flew with him. Why wouldn’t that be relevant? Who should I have cited for flying with him in his plane multiple times? Be specific, please. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751.md?page=2)