# Jeffrey Epsteins arrest for child sex-trafficking. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 9, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751 "2019-07-09T02:33:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/21 "2019-07-09T04:18:18Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > I cited the freaking Flight Manifests, submitted into evidence. You’re the winner of ‘weak-ass’ insinuating. Hey! You got me! That’s _exactly_ what I meant! I’ll cherish this honor…especially from you. It means so much to me. Btw, just in case…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/22 "2019-07-09T04:21:19Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Clintons flights with Epstein were well known. Both Bill AND Hillary flew with him. Why wouldn’t that be relevant? Who should I have cited for flying with him in his plane multiple times? Be specific, please. Yes, let’s not forget the child sex ring the Clintons had in the basement of that pizza joint. The evidence is…they flew on a pedo’s plane? Also, they are still both president somehow so…? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/23 "2019-07-09T04:27:26Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Clintons flights with Epstein were well known. Both Bill AND Hillary flew with him. Why wouldn’t that be relevant? Who should I have cited for flying with him in his plane multiple times? Be specific, please. Again, what debate did you think to have? Great Debates is not the breaking news forum. And the connection between Trump and Epstein is also well known. Yet you didn’t mention that. So you weren’t looking to name all the names associated with Epstein. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/24 "2019-07-09T05:11:44Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > So, breaking news about a well known Democrat Supporter is Mundane? I guess, it is typical. Don’t read too much into the forum name. This is where all breaking news stories tend to go. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/25 "2019-07-09T06:45:27Z")
Seriously peoples, does EVERYTHING in the US boil down to partisan issues FFS? So there’s a dude, Epstein, who has been arrested for child sex-trafficking. Isn’t that enough for the time being? When (or if) it goes to trial, I expect there will be evidence against others involved in his atrocious operations. Can you leave the bloody partisan shit out of it until then? It’s getting really bloody tedious for those of us from other parts of the world I tell ya. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/26 "2019-07-09T08:18:13Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Seriously peoples, does EVERYTHING in the US boil down to partisan issues FFS? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/27 "2019-07-09T09:02:26Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Most folks believe, that a Boss and Employee relationship, assuming you think President is no more important than a Supervisor; is NOT consensual because of imbalance of power. But, you already knew that. Lewinsky stated that she was the pursuer, that Clinton had not previously made any indication of interest. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/28 "2019-07-09T09:36:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Lewinsky stated that she was the pursuer, that Clinton had not previously made any indication of interest. The relationship was deeply inappropriate and I hope Hillary kicked him repeatedly in the groin for it, but it clearly involved neither rape nor coercion. I agree all the names should come out and all evidence of actual sexual activity as well. And I wouldn’t at all be surprised to learn that politicians of all stripes were implicated. However, it’s still worth noting that the OP, despite claiming no particular political bias, has studiously avoided mentioning the current president’s name at all while focusing on the Clintons, despite what is currently known being “Bill Clinton was a known friend of Epstein’s and travelled on his plane” and “Donald Trump was a known friend of Epstein’s and travelled on his plane and hired the DA who gave him an extremely lenient plea deal to be part of his administration and admitted to enjoying walking through dressing rooms where underaged girls were undressing and made sexualized comments about his own young daughter and **was accused of raping a 13-year-old girl at one of Epstein’s parties, with at least one witness** ”. Focusing on Clinton is the obvious course here. “You’re circling the wagons!”, cries the person driving madly in a circle on his own. Nope - just pointing out the obvious. And if \*credible \*evidence turns up about Clinton and underaged girls, take that fucker down too. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/29 "2019-07-09T09:42:44Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The relationship was deeply inappropriate and I hope Hillary kicked him repeatedly in the groin for it, but it clearly involved neither rape nor coercion. Agreed. It’s often implied and sometimes stated that Lewinsky was a victim of Bill’s and had no choice but to go along with his advances. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/30 "2019-07-09T11:23:38Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > I see Bill Clinton was a ‘frequent-flyer’ with him to various locales. I wonder who else has been serviced by Mr. Epsteins ‘Lolitas’ ? Should be interesting, to say the least. Oh yes, this has the potential to be intersting. "The indictment Monday of Jeffrey Epstein on sex trafficking charges has reignited questions about the way Alexander Acosta — now President Trump’s labor secretary — handled an earlier case against Epstein that resulted in a minimal sentence. As U.S. attorney in Florida in 2007, Acosta [negotiated](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-nominee-acosta-cut-deal-with-billionaire-in-sex-abuse-case-involving-40-underage-girls/2017/03/21/d33271a8-0d85-11e7-ab07-07d9f521f6b5_story.html?utm_term=.8b9a2400aa26) a plea deal that led to two felony solicitation charges and 13 months in county jail for Epstein, with the billionaire financier allowed to work from his office six days a week. Epstein had been facing the possibility of life in prison. His alleged victims were not told about the deal." > **[Epstein indictment renews questions about earlier case handled by Trump...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/epstein-indictment-renews-questions-about-earlier-case-handled-by-trump-cabinet-official/2019/07/08/95e6996a-a1a2-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html?utm_term=.a103a0895414)** > > As U.S. attorney in Florida, Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta negotiated a minimal sentence for the billionaire financier accused of sex crimes. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/31 "2019-07-09T13:03:41Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > I cited the freaking Flight Manifests, submitted into evidence. You’re the winner of ‘weak-ass’ insinuating. Aside from showing when Clinton might have been aboard a particular airplane, what do you think these manifests indicate? Also, could you point out a couple of pages where Clinton’s name appears? Those chicken scratchings are hard to read. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/32 "2019-07-09T13:09:42Z")
I want to say I just admire the FBI for going after this guy. He has some powerful friends protecting him. I mean the guy lives on his own island where he has his little brothel and always thought himself above the law of any and all nations and he had powerful friends to protect him. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/33 "2019-07-09T14:30:51Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I want to say I just admire the FBI for going after this guy. He has some powerful friends protecting him. I mean the guy lives on **his own island** where he has his little brothel and always thought himself above the law of any and all nations and he had powerful friends to protect him. Manhattan is a pretty decent sized island, actually. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/34 "2019-07-09T14:54:09Z")
He has several residences (from wiki) : Epstein’s New York home is reputedly the largest private residence in Manhattan;[15] it previously housed the Birch Wathen Lenox School. The 50,000-square-foot (4,600-square-meter), nine-story mansion is just off Fifth Avenue and overlooks the Frick Collection. The financier’s other properties include a villa in Palm Beach, Florida; an apartment in Paris; a 10,000-acre (40 km2) ranch with a hilltop mansion in Stanley, New Mexico;[78][13] and a private island near Saint Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands called Little Saint James, which includes a mansion and guest houses. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/35 "2019-07-09T15:11:19Z")
How or why did he have three US passports? Two is unusual but not all that uncommon, but three is. [Paul Manafort cite](https://money.cnn.com/2017/11/01/news/economy/manafort-multiple-passports/) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/36 "2019-07-09T15:18:02Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I want to say I just admire the FBI for going after this guy. He has some powerful friends protecting him. I mean the guy lives on his own island where he has his little brothel and always thought himself above the law of any and all nations and he had powerful friends to protect him. No one even seems to have a clear idea where Epstein got all his money. His explanation is a “Hedge fund manager” but he is ludicrously wealthy even by the standards of fund managers; it’s akin to a guy being a surgeon and he lives like Jeff Bezos. Surgery’s good money, but not THAT good. It is possible, of course, that Epstein is not as rich as he has claimed to be. It’s possible he had amassed a fortune by blackmailing men who he helped to rape teenaged girls. It’s really anyone’s guess as to how gross this will turn out to be. Interestingly, the lead department on this case is not the sex crimes unit; it’s the corruption unit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/37 "2019-07-09T16:17:19Z")
> [@Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/6): > > As for Bill Clinton - as far as I can tell, no one’s accused him of doing anything but catching a free plane ride (unlike Epstein, Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz, who’ve all been accused of rape, directly by name.) > > But hey, if anyone does accuse Bill Clinton directly, then I hope they throw the book at him. Only the republican side seems to think that mentioning Bill Clinton will give normal people second thoughts about pursuing real charges versus Jeffrey Epstein. > [@Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/10): > > As far as I can tell, no one related to the Epstein case has accused Bill of anything. I could be wrong. Maybe more charges will be filed. If someone has the goods on Clinton, let’em rip. > > Either way, the Republican whataboutism as they desperately wave Bill Clinton’s name about will remain super ineffective. … ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/38 "2019-07-09T16:20:04Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > No one even seems to have a clear idea where Epstein got all his money. His explanation is a “Hedge fund manager” but he is ludicrously wealthy even by the standards of fund managers; it’s akin to a guy being a surgeon and he lives like Jeff Bezos. Surgery’s good money, but not THAT good. > > It is possible, of course, that Epstein is not as rich as he has claimed to be. It’s possible he had amassed a fortune by blackmailing men who he helped to rape teenaged girls. It’s really anyone’s guess as to how gross this will turn out to be. It’s possible that he, like Trump, has been associating with unsavory people and their money. > [@Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffery-epstein-has-been-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-a-minor/836658/105): > > Author Tim O’Brien mentioned this last night on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show: > > [Jeffrey Epstein, Called ‘Terrific’ By Trump, Charged With Sex Trafficking | The Last Word | MSNBC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-UvUcoOFRg) > > Mention at about 14:30 mins into clip. O’Brien notes the similarity with the unknown sources of money that flow into the Trump Organization. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/39 "2019-07-09T16:33:12Z")
While I have little doubt Trump is dirty, his dirty money is likely from real estate scams and money laundering, not slave trading. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751/40 "2019-07-09T17:09:11Z")
I meant Epstein could be laundering money for slave traders. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-epsteins-arrest-for-child-sex-trafficking/836751.md?page=3)