# Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic re Christopher Hitchens: STFU

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 12, 2010, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-goldberg-of-the-atlantic-re-christopher-hitchens-stfu/550025 "2010-08-12T07:28:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-goldberg-of-the-atlantic-re-christopher-hitchens-stfu/550025/41 "2010-08-13T14:47:52Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Not only that, but it seems he can’t take what others dish out on him – like a serious falling out with his brother for 10 years because he criticized Christopher as being historically soft on the Soviet Union.

To be fair on this point, if you think Christopher Hitchens is bad you should check out the work of brother Peter. He writes for a UK newspaper called the Daily Mail (a.k.a. The Daily Heil a.k.a. The Daily Wail a.k.a. The Daily Fail a.k.a. The Daily Fascist a.k.a. The Daily :rolleyes:) and never fails to come across as a conceited, snippy grade A prick. Based on what I’ve read of the two of them over the years, it’s easy to believe both brothers ought to shoulder their fair share of the blame for the feud.

And I agree with everyone else that you can’t condemn a guy on the basis of one unpleasant anecdote. A lot of people have written good things about him over the years.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-goldberg-of-the-atlantic-re-christopher-hitchens-stfu/550025/42 "2010-08-13T15:25:27Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> **gonzomax** , the second of the two other guys besides Hitchens in the video was Martin Amis, son of Kingsley and Hitchens’ best friend.

I knew who he was and he should have stayed out. He detracted from the discussion.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-goldberg-of-the-atlantic-re-christopher-hitchens-stfu/550025/43 "2010-08-13T15:44:18Z")

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Regardless of the specifics of what happened between Hitchens and **Ravenman** ’s friend, I don’t think anybody’s going to deny that Hitchens has a very healthy self-regard. And what writer enjoys slaving over a story for a long time and then having it edited? But then again nobody’s talking about how he deserves commendations for his contributions to the field of niceness.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeffrey-goldberg-of-the-atlantic-re-christopher-hitchens-stfu/550025/44 "2010-08-13T15:48:57Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Hmm…what would be the word for people who ascribe evil intent to people whose actions and/or beliefs they strongly disagree with, and who find it utterly impossible to believe that these peoples’ actions or beliefs might have merit or honest intent?

I don’t know, but if you take a long look in the mirror perhaps it will come to you.

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