# Jellicle Cat and Boojum Snark on a Frabjous Day

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**Created:** [January 5, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jellicle-cat-and-boojum-snark-on-a-frabjous-day/957264 "2022-01-05T13:40:53Z")\
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Some nonsense adjectives (and nouns) are so well-known that people start using them outside of references to the original work.

I’ve seen “jellicle cat” used without reference to T. S. Eliot’s poems 9and long before the musical _Cats_ showed up) .

I’ve seen “Boojum” used occasionally, and “snark” many times\* in cases that have nothing to do with Lewis Carroll.

And Paul Brickhill used “frabjous” in his book _The Great Escape_ (upon which both the movie and a TV miniseries were based.

Carroll is a great source of nonsense words, many of which (like “galumphing” ) have entered everyday language.

Any other such cromulent words out there?

\*“Snark” is thought to have been a sort of portmanteau of “snail” and “shark”. The word seems to have nothing to do with “snark” indicating sarcasm. In the original pre-production sketches the landing craft from the _Nostromo_ in the movie _Alien_ was called the _Snark_. (Both Joseph Conrad’s _Nostromo_ and Carroll’s _The Hunting of the Snark_ involve an unseen entity picking off members of a ship’s cew one by one

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This is a perfectly cromulent thread. It embiggens us all.

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“Runcible Spoon” comes from Edward Lear’s poem “The Owl and the Pussycat.” I’ve seen it used in reference to a piece of cutlery that’s more commonly known as a “spork” (i.e., a spoon with fork-like pointy tines at the tip), particularly if one edge of the spoon is sharpened. And, in fact, [The Perfect Master has addressed this term in a column](https://www.straightdope.com/21342365/what-s-a-runcible-spoon).

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Paleontologists have adopted the word [“thagomizer”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thagomizer) from _The Far Side_.

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I couldn’t remember where “quark” (the subatomic piece) came from, had to Google it: Murray Gell-Man by way of James Joyce.

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“Grok” maybe hasn’t completely disappeared.

[![](https://80steess3.imgix.net/Social/Multi/i-grok-spock-shirt.multi.jpeg) ](https://80steess3.imgix.net/Social/Multi/i-grok-spock-shirt.multi.jpeg)

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Some cats in shelters have been called Professor Jiggly

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Carroll is a great source of nonsense words, many of which (like “galumphing” ) have entered everyday language.

Caroll invented the word chortle, which has entered general usage.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Caroll invented the word chortle, which has entered general usage.

Like “galumphing”, this is in “Jabberwocky”, a wonderful source of nonsense words that have escaped into common usage (including also “whiffle” and “beamish”)

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Caroll invented the word chortle, which has entered general usage.

So I was taught 50 years ago but the only use of the work I’ve ever heard was as an example of an invented word that entered general usage.

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> [@74westy](#):
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> So I was taught 50 years ago but the only use of the work I’ve ever heard was as an example of an invented word that entered general usage.

“Yeah, he’s off to the Chamber of Secrets for a cup of tea with his fanged servant,” said George, chortling .  
_Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets_ - J.K. Rowling

Connor chortled, “Good luck with that.”  
_Music of Souls_ - Joanne J. Kendrick

Miss Mamie chortled while my son and his wife reddened.  
_Queen Bee Goes Home Again_ - Haywood Smith

He almost chortled at the ridiculous thought, wishing someone was there with him to tell.  
_Damian’s Assassin_ - Lizzy Ford

Bengal hopped up and down and chortled with anticipatory glee.  
_The Camp Fire Girls at Camp Keewaydin, Or, Down Paddles_ - Hildegard G. Frey

Steve said he guessed the engine needed a good overhauling, and Perry chortled and offered his services to Joe to help take it apart  
_The Adventure Club Afloat_ - Ralph Henry Barbour

“Your face!” he chortled.  
_Essence of the Archers_ - Caitlin-Rose Owens

She chortled and said, “There’s no comparison.”  
“What to Do if You’re Terrified of Getting Older” - column by Dan Harris in the February 2019 issue of _Men’s Health_

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> [@74westy](#):
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> So I was taught 50 years ago but the only use of the work I’ve ever heard was as an example of an invented word that entered general usage.

Not sure what you mean, but I’ve read “chortle” several time in written works. I may have heard it spoken, as well, but I can’t recall a case.

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ISTM I’ve seen several mentions of Mitch McConnell “chortling” every time he torpedoes some Democratic bill.

Jabberwocky also gives us: brillig, slithy, tove, wabe, mimsy, borogove, mome, rath, outgrabe. (All that’s just the first four-line verse!)

frumious, vorpal, uffish, frabjous.
