# Jenny McCarthy gets a talk show (and the antivax movement)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 18, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833 "2009-05-18T07:28:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/101 "2009-05-21T21:01:18Z")

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[First topic](http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/chi-autism-lupron-may21,0,242705.story) for the new show.

I used to like Oprah. I used to think Jenny was hot and funny. I have a babes of Baywatch Playboy with her in it. I liked her on Singled Out. I thought she would make a good sitcom star. But this autism nuttery has completely turned me off.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/102 "2009-05-21T21:55:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackmannii]  
She can make up for that with ads from fly-by-night labs that do “toxin” testing, practitioners who push chelation and other quacky treatments for autism, and dealers in useless supplements.  
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I bet there are some porn sites that would love to buy advertising space on her web site as well…

-XT

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/103 "2009-05-21T22:06:00Z")

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> [@Ataraxy](#):
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> [First topic](http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/chi-autism-lupron-may21,0,242705.story) for the new show.

Her first episode is debunking a “cure” for autism because it has no scientific efficacy?

That’s ingeniously stupid.

Stupid, of course, because she’s debunking it using the very thing she refuses to acknowledge as legitimate - scientific testing. Ingenious because this may be an attempt to give her credibility - it makes her look like she’s not anti-science in general, and doesn’t believe every miracle cure that comes along, and acknowledging that may give her credibility with the audience.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/104 "2009-05-21T22:08:56Z")

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That was my suggestion for her first topic. I don’t what she’s really gonna do. She would never do it. But she present as a real treatment for autism because she’s an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/105 "2009-05-21T22:28:22Z")

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> [@Ataraxy](#):
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> [First topic](http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/chi-autism-lupron-may21,0,242705.story) for the new show.

[QUOTE=The article]  
Desperate to help their autistic children, hundreds of parents nationwide are turning to an unproven and potentially damaging treatment: **multiple high doses of a drug sometimes used to chemically castrate sex offenders**.  
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WTF?

No, seriously WTF?

So it’s not okay to get your kid vaccinated against measles, but it is okay to give them MULTIPLE HIGH DOSES of a drug used to CHEMICALLY CASTRATE SEX OFFENDERS?

This is what passes for good parenting these days?

I want to hit something very, very hard.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/106 "2009-05-22T00:40:01Z")

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No, no, it works, it REALLY works ! But only if it is the parents who take the drug.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/107 "2009-05-22T02:48:17Z")

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I’ve taken Lupron for fertility issues. It sucks. I had bad headaches as a result. Fuck the Geiers and their expensive, dangerous quackery. They should be arrested for pedaling modern day snake oil.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/108 "2009-05-22T05:43:35Z")

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> [@SpazCat](#):
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> So it’s not okay to get your kid vaccinated against measles, but it is okay to give them MULTIPLE HIGH DOSES of a drug used to CHEMICALLY CASTRATE SEX OFFENDERS?

You don’t understand - the measles vaccine has TOXINS in it! Like ANTIFREEZE and ABORTED HUMAN BABIES and DIOXIN and USED MOTOR OIL FROM OLD CHEVY NOVAS!

Lupron is…well…it’s _different_ when it’s a force used for GOOD, sort of like when Jenny gets her Botox shots or bleaches her hair.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/109 "2009-05-22T11:15:55Z")

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Chiming in with props to the OP. Kids aren’t in the immediate future for me but they’re in the longterm plan, and the idea that the greedy, the gullible and the stupid in the anti-vaccine community could put their health at risk is infuriating.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/110 "2009-05-22T12:47:30Z")

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Maybe breast implants cause stupidity.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/111 "2009-05-22T12:53:20Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Maybe breast implants cause stupidity.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Say it ain’t so! That would be a worse tragedy than vaccinations causing autism.

Actually, I think it more likely that stupidity causes breast implants.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/112 "2009-05-22T13:08:02Z")

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> [@SpazCat](#):
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> So it’s not okay to get your kid vaccinated against measles, but it is okay to give them MULTIPLE HIGH DOSES of a drug used to CHEMICALLY CASTRATE SEX OFFENDERS?
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> This is what passes for good parenting these days?

Paging Dr. Freud…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/113 "2009-05-22T13:38:56Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> You don’t understand - the measles vaccine has TOXINS in it! Like ANTIFREEZE and ABORTED HUMAN BABIES and DIOXIN and USED MOTOR OIL FROM OLD CHEVY NOVAS!
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> .

You don’t even WANT to know what they do with stuff from Pintos.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/114 "2009-05-22T13:56:17Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Actually, I think it more likely that stupidity causes breast implants.

I think you might be onto something there. I need a large federal grant for research purposes.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/115 "2009-05-22T14:50:29Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I think you might be onto something there. I need a large federal grant for research purposes.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Hmm… not sure how that would work, but I’m willing to volunteer. Oh, never mind. I don’t think I want to give an IQ test to every woman who requests breast implants.

Surely there must be some breast variables that need measurement. Like, say, perkiness! Yes, perhaps perky breasts have a correspondence to perky women! Even better, slutty women!

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/116 "2009-05-22T16:05:28Z")

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> [@SpazCat](#):
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> WTF?
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> No, seriously WTF?
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> So it’s not okay to get your kid vaccinated against measles, but it is okay to give them MULTIPLE HIGH DOSES of a drug used to CHEMICALLY CASTRATE SEX OFFENDERS?
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> This is what passes for good parenting these days?
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> I want to hit something very, very hard.

Maybe the real goal is to stop autism by keeping autistic kids from breeding.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/117 "2009-05-27T05:46:48Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Maybe the real goal is to stop autism by keeping autistic kids from breeding.

Indeed, no one gets laid more than autistics.

It is unusual. Usually the SECRET CURE stuff comes from some moss that grows only in the dark anal caverns of a certain subspecies of the californian hippy.

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**Author:** ![MerryMagdalen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@MerryMagdalen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MerryMagdalen)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/118 "2009-05-27T07:53:58Z")

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Inspired by a thread on this very message board a year or so ago, I did a research paper on the vaccine-autism (non)link and the sort of people who pass this info on.

Jenny McCarthy makes me sad. And by sad I mean stabby.

In case nobody has posted it in this thread yet, I give you [whale.to](http://www.whale.to/)

Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/119 "2009-05-27T09:25:50Z")

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> [@MerryMagdalen](#):
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> In case nobody has posted it in this thread yet, I give you [whale.to](http://www.whale.to/).

Is that site meant to be parody, or real?  
Seriously, I can’t tell. I’m guessing real (as in real whacked) but some of quotes look like jokes.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jenny-mccarthy-gets-a-talk-show-and-the-antivax-movement/496833/120 "2009-05-27T12:38:14Z")

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> [@Blake](#):
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> Is that site meant to be parody, or real?  
> Seriously, I can’t tell. I’m guessing real (as in real whacked) but some of quotes look like jokes.

Its real. It was the almighty godsend website of the vaccine nutters and may still be. The owner of whale.to used to post to USENET and was regularly pounded by a crowd of doctors and biologists (among them PZ Meyers).

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