# Jeopardistas: What do you think of Arthur Chu? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 3, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441 "2014-02-03T19:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/41 "2014-02-07T23:41:06Z")
So split your prize money. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/42 "2014-02-08T00:06:52Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > So split your prize money. Yes, that’s exactly the same thing, clever boots. ---
**Author:** ![janeslogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@janeslogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janeslogin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/43 "2014-02-08T00:08:16Z")
Locally Jeopardy is on the ABC affiliate and ABC news was the first to broadcast the story of the social medias Chu kerfuffle. Has this been the case in other markets? The question came up elsewhere; could this all just be a PR rumble? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/44 "2014-02-08T01:04:50Z")
js-Please explain what post 20 means then. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/45 "2014-02-08T01:09:52Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > js-Please explain what post 20 means then. I think I’ve put about as much effort into this as it warrants. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/46 "2014-02-08T03:49:58Z")
> [@](#): > > You want to be commended for helping an opponent win, and hope he’ll hook you up in the future. Game shows, like all competitions, are meant to be WON. Yes, exactly. I want to win. If my opponents also win, that’s fine, as long as I win too. It’s not at all like agreeing to split the prize money. If I split the prize money, I get half of my total winnings. If I let the other guy tie, I get all of my winnings. All is more than half. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/47 "2014-02-08T04:15:07Z")
But a tie is NOT a win! ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/48 "2014-02-08T06:11:51Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > But a tie is NOT a win! In what way? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/49 "2014-02-08T06:40:22Z")
A win has only 1 winner. ---
**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/50 "2014-02-08T13:35:13Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > A win has only 1 winner. [Wrong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!#Returning_champions). > [@](#): > > In regular play, if two or three contestants tie for first place, they are declared co-champions; each retains their winnings and returns on the following episode. ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/51 "2014-02-08T15:33:34Z")
Most people hate board skipping. The belief is “start the category at the top and proceed down.” Makes sense and creates a rhythm and yes, the clues get harder as the value increases. Most people also hate the idea of DD hunting just so the other players can’t have it. Plus Arthur is humorless and annoying but many other players have also been humorless and annoying and I dislike them just as much. I don’t get the media hype about him. I do hope he loses his next game in a spectacular fashion. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/52 "2014-02-08T16:22:05Z")
One easy rule that Jeopardy! can change that will discourage ties. Co Champions split the winning amount rather than each getting the whole amount. If two players tie at 20,000, then the co-Champs get 10K apiece. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/53 "2014-02-08T17:19:23Z")
My previous comment was not Jeopardy specific. You’ve surely heard the saying,“I’m with you win or tie.” ---
**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/54 "2014-02-08T19:08:18Z")
In this thread, it is wrong. As an absolute statement, it is still wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/55 "2014-02-10T05:44:26Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Competition, and life in general, is every man for himself, and you should conduct yourself accordingly. Really? Have you ever studied game theory? Sometimes it is every man for himself. Sometimes, it requires cooperation. The ultimate point is to get yourself the most you can get in the long term. Chu’s whole point was to keep the people he knew he was better than around, that way he could always win the money he earned. The losers of the game don’t keep their earnings. Who cares that he shared the victory? He got to keep the money. The fact that someone else got to keep theirs has no bearing on him. So he gave up a bit of money in the short term to do it. So what? He knows he can come out ahead in the long term. Here’s a book for you to read. It’s basically a “Game Theory for Dummies” book. [http://www.gettingmore.com/](http://www.gettingmore.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/56 "2014-02-10T13:33:13Z")
> [@janeslogin](#): > > Locally Jeopardy is on the ABC affiliate and ABC news was the first to broadcast the story of the social medias Chu kerfuffle. Has this been the case in other markets? The question came up elsewhere; could this all just be a PR rumble? I brought this up (the PR aspect) back on Feb 5th (post #11). If you get an answer let me know. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/57 "2014-02-11T00:10:07Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Why is my objection silly? Competition, and life in general, is every man for himself, and you should conduct yourself accordingly. Life is also very much not every man for himself. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/58 "2014-02-11T01:06:23Z")
Seriously BigT? If you get a job, BY DEFINITION, nobody else gets it. Usually, if you get a raise, it’s only you getting it. Life is built to be zero-sum, not saying that’s good, it just is. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/59 "2014-02-11T01:27:00Z")
But if you get the Jeopardy prize money, someone else can get it too. And if life in general were zero-sum, then we would have hit a Malthusian collapse before we ever left Africa. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441/60 "2014-02-11T01:37:06Z")
**The object of the game is to win money.** It’s not to deny other people winning money. The measure of a player’s success is how much money s/he wins. Jeopardy! players are not measured by how many players they eliminate, in regular play (tournament play is different.) They are measured by the size of the checks they’re handed at the end of their run. Nothing else. By playing to tie, Chu is 1. Slightly reducing the likelihood he will lose by a dollar (it’s a tiny possibility but it could happen) and 2. If playing to tie from ahead, attempting to ensure he will face a player he has already demonstrated he can defeat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardistas-what-do-you-think-of-arthur-chu/680441.md?page=4)