# Jeopardy! 2022-23 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [September 12, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442 "2022-09-12T14:46:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/882 "2023-04-12T03:01:29Z")
You had to know where Soweto is, but I thought it was easy. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/883 "2023-04-12T03:01:33Z")
Spoilered, but regarding the April 11 FJ: I got Tutu right away, but Mandela eluded me for a bit, but I got it in time. What gave it away was “Soweto,” which placed it firmly in South Africa, for those who can recall the news of the early 90s and before. Then all I needed to do was to think of the two most famous people from South Africa. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/884 "2023-04-12T03:03:38Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > the contestants had some bad guesses. The first answer was totally ridiculous. The second answer was pretty damn good, as Gandhi did spend some time in South Africa. The third answer at least got one right, but the other was not close. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/885 "2023-04-12T03:09:51Z")
I didn’t get it right, but at least the two people both were from the right country and both won the peace prize: Mandela and de Klerk, they just didn’t live on the same street. Urgh. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/886 "2023-04-12T03:42:51Z")
I considered De Klerk and Biko but chose the more obvious two, since I don’t think the latter was a prize winner… ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/887 "2023-04-12T04:09:29Z")
When did Obama live in Africa? From 1961-1990. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/888 "2023-04-12T04:15:44Z")
> [@K364](#): > > The clue explicitly referred to EPCOT (experimental prototype community in Florida) It’s only explicit if you know what the full name of EPCOT stands for. I have only heard it as EPCOT, so nothing in the clue would have ever led me there. I did get today’s FJ instantly at least. Thought that one was incredibly easy, just name the two most famous South Africans related to peace. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/889 "2023-04-12T12:26:18Z")
It all depended on knowing where Soweto is. If you know that, it was easy. If you didn’t, you really had no way to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/890 "2023-04-12T12:46:57Z")
I thought Obama and Gandhi were really bad guesses; Obama of course never lived in Africa, let alone South Africa, and, while Gandhi did live in South Africa early in his life, it’s also well-known that the Nobel Committee never gave him the Peace Prize. ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/891 "2023-04-12T13:13:29Z")
Soweto was the real key. I immediately thought of De Klerk and Mandela, but Soweto was one of the Black townships so De Klerk would not have lived there. It had to be Archbishop Tutu. If you didn’t know what Soweto was it became a guessing game. Gandhi crossed my mind, as I couldn’t remember if he ever got the Peace Prize, but the timing seemed off. He left South Africa just before WWI, and the Black Townships in South Africa were created later than that. ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/892 "2023-04-12T13:29:31Z")
I knew Soweto was in South Africa, but I didn’t know anything about black or white townships so I guessed Mandela and De Klerk. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/893 "2023-04-12T14:37:49Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > while Gandhi did live in South Africa early in his life, it’s also well-known that the Nobel Committee never gave him the Peace Prize. Not that well known (I didn’t know it, so how well-known could it be?) I got the FJ right, but I wasn’t 100% sure that Tutu ever won the Peace Price. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/894 "2023-04-12T14:41:22Z")
This was my guess as well. In hindsight, it was unlikely that Mandela and de Klerk would have lived in the same neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/895 "2023-04-12T14:53:47Z")
And less likely than that on the same street there. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/896 "2023-04-12T15:12:11Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > …it’s also well-known that the Nobel Committee never gave him the Peace Prize. It doesn’t matter how “well known” a fact is if you don’t know it. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/897 "2023-04-12T15:48:31Z")
Well, I never knew Gandhi ever lived in Africa (who would think that, unless you learned it specifically?). I never knew Tutu won the prize, but I still guessed him. I went Tutu - deKlerk nope no way on the same street - back to Tutu. But the other one, all it was missing was “of Tomorrow” to the clue. And I’ve never been to EPCOT. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/898 "2023-04-12T15:51:53Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Well, I never knew Gandhi ever lived in Africa (who would think that, unless you learned it specifically?). It’s a pretty significant part of his bio, but if you don’t know it, you don’t know it. I think I learned it first from the movie, _Gandhi._ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/899 "2023-04-12T16:00:30Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > but if you don’t know it, you don’t know it. I usually try to remember that in this thread. I’ve never read Mandela’s or Tutu’s biographies, either. I just accumulate random facts here and there. Sometimes, I’m surprised how some random, disconnected fact will allow me to answer the clue that I didn’t even understand the question for. Jeopardy! isn’t a true trivia challenge, it’s more a puzzle solving challenge with trivia as the pieces. Just don’t ask me about 21st century pop stars! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/900 "2023-04-12T16:03:21Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Jeopardy! isn’t a true trivia challenge, it’s more a puzzle solving challenge with trivia as the pieces. It’s a hybrid, to be sure. I don’t like it when they swing too far toward the “puzzle” aspect. But that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/901 "2023-04-12T16:06:33Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t like it when they swing too far toward the “puzzle” aspect. Me, I love “before and after”, but I hate hate anagrams. I have wondered if Watson could do either of those. Are the Watson games on J-Archive? Did they do the more puzzly categories? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442.md?page=46)