# Jeopardy! 2022-23

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [September 12, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442 "2022-09-12T14:46:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/922 "2023-04-14T16:44:26Z")

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> [@Arcite](#):
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> but was it explicitly announced at the beginning of the round that “we need the name of a type of fish in your response?

I’m looking at the replay now. This was the last category, and Ken just said “And, finally, we have ‘Fish Out of Water’.” He said nothing about a fish being needed in the response.

And, BTW, the DD was in that category: This is the Southernmost Major League Baseball Team. An incredibly easy DD, imo.

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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/923 "2023-04-14T16:48:51Z")

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The guy who won a few games last week, Brian, made that mistake. He gave me the impression he was trying to show off that he new various noteworthy persons’ full names. He tried to respond with the composer Rossini’s full name, and Ken accepted it, but over the break the judges decided he mispronounced the first name and his credit was revoked. If he had just said “who is Rossini?” that wouldn’t have happpened.

Presidents are interesting cases, though. We discussed the Adamses in a previous thread when a contestant’s response of “who is Adams?” was accepted as corrrect _without_ a “be more specific.” I could have sworn the same thing happened in the past couple years with a Johnson or a Bush too, when I suppose the judges thought it was obvious enough from context that there was only one it could have been.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/924 "2023-04-14T17:38:43Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> …(which Adams/Johnson/Bush?).

Or Roosevelt/Harrison.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/925 "2023-04-14T17:44:21Z")

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Bush is an especially interesting case, because if you mean the 41st president, these days you have to call him “George H.W. Bush,” even though no one called him that while he was in office. At that time no one worried about the fact that he had a son who was also named George, so just saying “George Bush” was sufficient.

The name “George H.W. Bush,” to use nerd-speak, is a retcon.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/926 "2023-04-14T20:56:21Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> The name “George H.W. Bush,” to use nerd-speak, is a retcon.

I’d just call one Bush fils and the other Bush pere but I can’t ever remember which word means which.

(Pardon my French.)

So one’s just the unindicted war criminal, the other is the not-so-bad one.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/927 "2023-04-14T22:02:59Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I’d just call one Bush fils and the other Bush pere but I can’t ever remember which word means which.

I follow the tradition established for William Pitt in England, and call them “Bush the Elder” and “Bush the Younger”. I don’t know if that would pass muster with the _Jeopardy!_ judges, though.

“Pere” is father, “fils” is son.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/928 "2023-04-15T00:19:05Z")

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Actually, I think they have accepted “Senior” and/or “Junior” before, even though that’s not actually accurate.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/929 "2023-04-16T03:41:05Z")

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It’s accurate enough. “George HW Bush, Junior” would be wrong, but there’s nothing wrong about “George Bush, Junior”.

In NQAT (college quiz thingie) there is a special rule just for John Quincy Adams, namely that “Adams” will prompt a “be more specific,” but “John Adams” is immediately wrong.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/930 "2023-04-17T21:37:00Z")

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I missed the beginning, why didn’t Ben return?

Brian

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/931 "2023-04-17T21:42:00Z")

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Googling finds he had an illness.

He will return in May

Brian

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/932 "2023-04-17T22:58:21Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Googling finds he had an illness.

Ken said that he was unable to travel after returning home for the weekend.

I got today’s FJ, although it was admittedly a semi-educated guess.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/933 "2023-04-18T01:55:22Z")

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I got it but had no confidence in my answer. Just couldn’t think of anything better.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/934 "2023-04-19T14:09:16Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I got today’s FJ, although it was admittedly a semi-educated guess.

“It’s a shame for a good Scotsman to admit it, but I’m not up on Milton.”

I won’t admit what I thought the answer was, but turns out the author was German. What do I know - I didn’t read that one either! 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/935 "2023-04-19T14:51:57Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I won’t admit what I thought the answer was,

I will; I figured it was from _Hamlet_.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/936 "2023-04-19T18:04:40Z")

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I didn’t at first know who had won 53 Oscar nominations (!) but got the answer due to the clue “He was son of a percussionist-like all three contestants.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/937 "2023-04-19T18:50:53Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> I didn’t at first know who had won 53 Oscar nominations

I wouldn’t have known it was that many, except our classical music station has a show that features movie soundtracks. He gets a lot of airtime.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/938 "2023-04-19T18:59:02Z")

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He was just on Colbert last week, and I remembered his age from that, so the clue (born in 1932) lined up with the huge number of nominations.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/939 "2023-04-19T19:29:11Z")

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My husband and I wondered if it was some piece of common knowledge that everyone had but us. But neither of us would have bet any money on such a category anyway.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/940 "2023-04-19T19:48:17Z")

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I consider Mr 53 nominations to be the greatest composer of the 20th century. My wife rolls her eyes when I say things like that. 🙂

Compared to other soundtrack composers, his stuff is all different. I can spot an Alan Silvestri or James Horner soundtrack by the common motifs they use, but not this guy. And I like Horner and Silvestri!

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/941 "2023-04-19T20:06:13Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I won’t admit what I thought the answer was,

I guessed “what is 1984” for the English literature one, but didn’t have much confidence in that.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> I didn’t at first know who had won 53 Oscar nominations

I guessed “who is Williams”, but that number seemed awfully high. I assume he’s had several years with multiple nominations.

I also don’t know if just “Williams” would have been specific enough. All of the contestants gave his full name.

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