# Jeopardy! 2022-23 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [September 12, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442 "2022-09-12T14:46:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1142 "2023-05-24T16:15:31Z")
I miraculously knew the answer, probably because I just saw a live performance of Much Ado recently and I also remember some altar boy Latin (“Benedicat vos omnipotens deus…”). Shakespeare is definitely not my forte. I was pretty sure about Benedick, but not 100% sure if it was Beatrice or Beatrix. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1143 "2023-05-24T19:21:30Z")
I had no clue about Benedick (or Benedict), so I did a quick Google search. Turns out that Shakespeare’s characters were indeed Beatrice and Benedick, but a later opera written by Frenchman Hector Berlioz based on ‘Much Ado About Nothing’ was entitled ‘Béatrice et Bénédict’, which of course has been Anglicized to ‘Beatrice and Benedict’. I have re-watched that exchange several times. As quickly as Mayim ruled Ben’s answer incorrect, I think that she had been pre-briefed on that possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1144 "2023-05-24T19:31:24Z")
I was unfamiliar with Much Ado About Nothing and hadn’t heard of Beatrice and Benedick. And of course Mayim does a lousy job revealing the correct response. After we saw Ben’s response, a good host would say something like “ooh, so close, you picked the right play, Much Ado About Nothing, but the male character’s name is Benedick with a ‘k’, and that ‘t’ changes the pronunciation, so unfortunately we can’t accept that.” Instead Mayim just robotically says “unfortunately, that is not correct. Correct repsonse: Beatrice and Benedick, from Much Ado About Nothing.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1145 "2023-05-24T20:42:25Z")
> [@Arcite](#): > > And of course Mayim does a lousy job revealing the correct response. After we saw Ben’s response, a good host would say something like “ooh, so close, you picked the right play, Much Ado About Nothing, but the male character’s name is Benedick with a ‘k’, and that ‘t’ changes the pronunciation, so unfortunately we can’t accept that.” Instead Mayim just robotically says “unfortunately, that is not correct. Correct repsonse: Beatrice and Benedick, from Much Ado About Nothing.” I think the host wants to keep a bit of uncertainty, if they can. So I’d expect Mayim to rule Ben incorrect, and then to explain why only after all three responses have been revealed. I didn’t see the episode in question. Is that how it happened, or was there no explanation at all? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1146 "2023-05-24T20:46:35Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > So I’d expect Mayim to rule Ben incorrect, and then to explain why only after all three responses have been revealed. Ben was in the lead, so his response was the last to be revealed. The other two had both guessed ‘Romeo and Juliet.’ Mayim, per usual, ruled him incorrect, gave us the correct answer, and then showed Ben’s wager. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1147 "2023-05-24T20:47:39Z")
I don’t mind Mayim (though prefer Ken), but agree she did not do a very good job here. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1148 "2023-05-24T20:53:45Z")
> [@Arcite](#): > > And of course Mayim does a lousy job revealing the correct response. After we saw Ben’s response, a good host would say something like “ooh, so close, you picked the right play, Much Ado About Nothing, but the male character’s name is Benedick with a ‘k’, and that ‘t’ changes the pronunciation, so unfortunately we can’t accept that.” Instead Mayim just robotically says “unfortunately, that is not correct. Correct repsonse: Beatrice and Benedick, from Much Ado About Nothing.” Your description of what a “good host” would have said sounds a lot like what Alex Trebek would say, and I remember people here criticizing him for smugness. I get the impression it’s a no-win situation. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1149 "2023-05-24T21:00:48Z")
It needn’t be exactly how Alex would do it, but it is probably a good idea to clarify why that slight change would not be accepted. And I’d say that the perceived smugness of the response here would depend largely on the delivery. I can imagine Bialik saying it in a way that would sound okay (to me, at least). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1150 "2023-05-25T00:15:15Z")
No one is following the Masters Tournament? I’m watching the Final now. I’ll avoid any spoilers. I am disappointed no one knew the Wagner group answer. They’re in the news almost every day. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1151 "2023-05-25T00:18:00Z")
If you knew the answer, more or less, because you saw the play, I don’t know if you’d even get the subtle difference. If they were able to anticipate that and brief the host, maybe they could have been more generous given subsequent spin-offs being ambiguous about the name since it was not the easiest question. I don’t get upset about these things and understand rules iz rules. But it’s a lousy way for a great competitor to end. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1152 "2023-05-25T01:21:12Z")
Monday’s FJ was really lax on its answer (compared to Tuesday). They accepted _The Wizard of Oz_ for the famous 1901 book. The book is actually _The Wonderful Wizard of Oz_. The former is the name of the movie. Inconsistent much? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1153 "2023-05-25T03:51:22Z")
I watched all the Masters but haven’t seen today’s finals show yet. I really enjoyed the informal atmosphere and joking around with everyone. The only problem I have with the Masters is that the Daily Doubles took any suspense out of the game because they weren’t about strategy. The players went all-in almost every time so if one player got a couple big DDs, they would build an insurmountable lead. There were very few games where the winner wasn’t known before Final Jeopardy. But all in all, I liked it. And I expect James to take the crown when I watch the final later. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1154 "2023-05-25T04:49:21Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > The players went all-in almost every time so if one player got a couple big DDs, they would build an insurmountable lead. That’s the Holzhauer strategy that everyone has to adopt when playing against him, it’s how Ken won the GOAT. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1155 "2023-05-25T04:56:25Z")
> [@pirviii](#): > > That’s the Holzhauer strategy that everyone has to adopt when playing against him, it’s how Ken won the GOAT. Ah. I wasn’t watching Jeopardy when James was having his run. I assumed they were doing that because they weren’t playing for money, just to win. It makes for less interesting games. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1156 "2023-05-25T14:30:09Z")
Tough news about Mattea Roach. My best wishes to her and her family. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1157 "2023-05-25T21:22:51Z")
OK, it’s been almost 24 hours since the Master’s was shown, so I can now share this humorous exchange: The clue was: Subheads in a piece on this NY Rep: “Lied about where he went to…college”; “Allegedly swindled a disabled vet whose dog was dying” Mattea’s answer: “Who was George Santos?” Ken’s response: “I know you don’t say this very much, but George Santos is correct.” That got a good laugh from the contestants and the crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1158 "2023-05-25T22:40:11Z")
With Ben Chan’s “bad beat” after a very respectable 9 wins, both Mrs Maven & I predict a long string of 1 or 2 day champions. Ben will be a formidable contender in this year’s Tournament. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1159 "2023-05-25T23:47:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Your description of what a “good host” would have said sounds a lot like what Alex Trebek would say, and I remember people here criticizing him for smugness… Depends on _how_ it’s said. Trebek certainly would have been smug. Ken\* would have been anything but smug. Ken is the host Jeopardy has been needing for a very long time. - “K-Dog”, if you will. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1160 "2023-05-26T00:00:49Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > Ken is the host Jeopardy has been needing for a very long time. Agree! ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442/1161 "2023-05-26T01:27:21Z")
Is there a reason they call it a “signaling device” and not simply a “buzzer?” Maybe the latter is considered too low brow for a classy game show? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-2022-23/971442.md?page=59)