# Jeopardy discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [January 4, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207 "2022-01-04T18:16:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![BigDfromLA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@BigDfromLA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDfromLA)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/221 "2022-02-14T09:07:31Z")
Will the winner of the college tournament play in the main Tournament of Champions? The recent professors tournament champion will be in the TOC. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/222 "2022-02-14T23:51:51Z")
Ah,kids these days. Game 4. They get everyone in the Billboard year end number 1 albums (while I’m going “huh?”) but they can’t tell a boxer from a minpin. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/223 "2022-02-15T12:47:42Z")
Wasn’t there a rule on Jeopardy! that contestants not have any visible tattoos? When was that rule changed? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/224 "2022-02-15T13:12:09Z")
The guys always used to wear ties, too. Was that a rule? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/225 "2022-02-15T15:42:42Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Wasn’t there a rule on Jeopardy! that contestants not have any visible tattoos? When was that rule changed? Probably when they couldn’t get enough contestants that don’t have them? I tell my wife she can never leave me because I fear I’ll never find another woman without tattoos. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/226 "2022-02-15T15:45:21Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The guys always used to wear ties, too. Was that a rule? My guess is that it wasn’t a rule but instead was the level of more formal dress that people used to wear. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/227 "2022-02-16T03:21:55Z")
I was amused and a bit disgusted as a Minnesotan with Monday’s Final Jeopardy: the category was “The Midwest” _At about 90,000 it’s the most populous U.S. city on North America’s biggest lake_. Ken had commented that the contestants were from both coasts, saying “let’s see how they fare”. Their answers were “Green Bay” (wrong lake), “Minneapolis” (not really on a lake, but the right state), and “Green Bay” again. The answer is Duluth - Ken: the most important port on Lake Superior, getting its day in the sun We were yelling at the TV because our kids went to college there; we still own and rent out a house across the street from the lake. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/228 "2022-02-16T03:26:27Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > _At about 90,000 it’s the most populous U.S. city on North America’s biggest lake_ . I thought this was an easy question, but obviously it wasn’t. But, really, Minneapolis on a lake? Come on! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/229 "2022-02-16T03:59:42Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > But, really, Minneapolis on a lake? Come on! Well…it’s on about five lakes. They’re good lakes, but they’re not Great Lakes (let alone the largest). ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/230 "2022-02-16T04:15:07Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > They’re good lakes But certainly not the biggest on the continent… ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/231 "2022-02-16T23:00:34Z")
It seems to me that sporting a Mohawk amounts to cultural appropriation. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/232 "2022-02-17T15:39:40Z")
My main counterargument is that, other than the name, there’s not really anything Native American about the modern version. It’s not like shaving off all but a strip of hair in the middle is exclusive to the Pawnee people (mistakenly identified as the Mohawk people). It’s a traditional part of many cultures around the world. Yet I don’t see any others that spike it up really high, die it with bright colors, or otherwise do anything that looks like the current one. That seems to be a unique aspect of American counterculture, starting in the 1980s. And I don’t know anyone who associates that punk style with Natives. It seems that maybe it was inspired by the racist version of the hairstyle, wore by red-face actors in certain old movies. But it’s not the same thing, and no punk is attempting to invoke the idea of Native Americans when they wear it. As such, I personally think it makes more sense to rename it, not to try to get rid of it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/233 "2022-02-17T16:03:10Z")
> [@jaycat](#): > > It seems to me that sporting a Mohawk amounts to cultural appropriation. It seems to me that practically everything in American culture is “appropriation”. Tex-Mex, any “fusion” cuisine, rock and roll, using the word “Schadenfreude” and “kindergarten”, Nehru jackets, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/234 "2022-02-17T16:05:43Z")
It should just be called a “crest”. ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/235 "2022-02-18T23:31:57Z")
Regarding last night’s FJ, I did think of Sesame Street, but I guessed Elmo. I watched a lot of Sesame Street as a kid, but didn’t recall ever hearing of Big Bird’s supposed age. Is this something that is ever talked about or referred to? How were we supposed to know this? ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/236 "2022-02-18T23:42:43Z")
For FJ I was thinking that Bart Simpson would be correct, but I guess he’s not old enough (yet). Well, old enough. But he hasn’t been around long enough. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/237 "2022-02-19T00:54:17Z")
> [@Arcite](#): > > Regarding last night’s FJ, I did think of Sesame Street, but I guessed Elmo. I watched a lot of Sesame Street as a kid, but didn’t recall ever hearing of Big Bird’s supposed age. Is this something that is ever talked about or referred to? How were we supposed to know this? I had the same thought process, but knew that the Elmo character was added decades after Sesame Street began, so abandoned that guess. And I think you’re right that Elmo being a small child has been publicized and talked about much more than Big Bird being a small child. I’d never really heard the latter. The character-voice doesn’t convey ‘child’ to me, but more of a goofy-sort of adult. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/238 "2022-02-19T02:14:54Z")
I guessed Lisa Simpson because Bart is supposed to be about ten. I didn’t think of Big Bird. ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/239 "2022-02-19T02:58:10Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I had the same thought process, but knew that the Elmo character was added decades after Sesame Street began, so abandoned that guess. > > And I think you’re right that Elmo being a small child has been publicized and talked about much more than Big Bird being a small child. I’d never really heard the latter. The character-voice doesn’t convey ‘child’ to me, but more of a goofy-sort of adult. Yeah, soon afterward I did recall that Elmo wasn’t part of the original Sesame Street cast. I’m surprised to see, however, reading his Wikipedia entry, that he was around in the 1980s when I was a kid. According to the entry, Elmo first appeared in 1980. That was only 11 years after Sesame Street began. I think his popularity increased in more recent decades because of the Tickle Me Elmo toy fad. I could see it being sort of a gag that despite being so large and not really sounding like a child, Big Bird is in fact only 6 and a half years old. But where and when is this fact ever referred to, that Jeopardy contestants could be expected to know it? Unless what they were really going for with the clue was “name a character who is more or less the face of Sesame Street.” > [@psychobunny](#): > > I guessed Lisa Simpson because Bart is supposed to be about ten. I didn’t think of Big Bird. The clue said the character had been on the air for “more than 50 years.” That would require the Simpsons to have been on the air earlier than 1972. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/240 "2022-02-19T04:00:14Z")
I was thinking Paddington or something - Charlie Brown isn’t a bad guess IMHO. Brian [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207.md?page=13)