# Jeopardy discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [January 4, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207 "2022-01-04T18:16:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/581 "2022-05-06T17:20:42Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> I was disappointed at only two correct “Art” answers and one Napoleonic (but was glad Ken didn’t pronounce it “Bagray-shun.”)

What kinda Russky name is “Bagration” anyway?

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/582 "2022-05-06T17:32:28Z")

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Of course you know it’s Georgian not Russian

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/583 "2022-05-06T18:14:06Z")

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Except “Rosebud” is the most famous single line in movie history while “redrum”….isn’t.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/584 "2022-05-06T19:02:12Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> If the FJ had been a reference to “Rosebud,” don’t you think everyone would’ve known it immediately? Even without having seen the movie?⁢

Sure. But that’s because that’s part of the pop culture osmosis. The film reel that begins the film is not so much, and I suspect most people who have watched Citizen Kane did it once a long time ago. They’ll remember the general plot, but not the details.

I know that I can barely remember the contents of the newspapers that start the Rudolph special, and I’ve seen it dozens of times. And that movie has a simple, easy to follow plot, not a bunch of flashbacks and high art cinematography that often takes your attention off the action.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/585 "2022-05-06T22:27:50Z")

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It looks like we went from a FJ that’s obvious to most, to today’s which seems, to me anyway, to be pretty obscure.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/586 "2022-05-06T23:23:09Z")

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Indeed, it’s like no one could possibly answer it correctly unless they lived in that city… That would be pure luck if that happens.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/587 "2022-05-07T00:07:51Z")

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She gambled:

1. Her opponent would go for broke
2. Her opponent would know the answer
3. She herself would know the answer

Too many gambits. She could have made a tie-breaker the worse case scenario

[spoiler]

ETA: that’s long surpassed O’Hare in importance. Not super-obscure

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/588 "2022-05-07T00:17:01Z")

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She did remarkably well. But the Tournament of Champions may he more difficult.

A tough question. I knew it was Atlanta, and remembered _one_ of the names of its airport. The contestant from Georgia got it and won. Good for her.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/589 "2022-05-07T00:17:09Z")

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I guess it depends if you fly much. I do, and instantly knew the answer was Jackson and Hartsfield - and I don’t know who those men are, but two names plus the reference to Coca-Cola gave it away.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/590 "2022-05-07T00:19:07Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Too many gambits. She could have made a tie-breaker the worse case scenario

It’s very unlikely the second place contestant will bet the way today’s winner did, though; that’s a weird bet. They usually go balls to the wall.

Jeopardy! is an odd game in that the scoring system is, from a competitive standpoint, kind of broken; as we have now seen two days in a row, in can reward an inferior player with a lucky choice of question in Final Jeopardy. However, this system is terrific to the VIEWER, as it makes most games competitive until Final, and can even result in the “way behind in third place but takes the game because the two big scores are close together” win.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/591 "2022-05-07T02:34:48Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It’s very unlikely the second place contestant will bet the way today’s winner did, though; that’s a weird bet.

Totally agree. The only way she wins the game is if she gets FJ right and the leader doesn’t. In that case, bet it all so as to maximize your winnings.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/592 "2022-05-07T02:53:28Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> She gambled:
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> 1. Her opponent would go for broke
> 2. Her opponent would know the answer
> 3. She herself would know the answer

Is that how the amounts made sense? It looked to me like they both bet completely random amounts that just happened to wind up n and n-1. Which looked extremely fishy.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/593 "2022-05-07T02:56:40Z")

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Oh well. It’ll be interesting to see her non-strategy pitted against Matt Amodio’s over-strategy in the champions’ tournament.

Still better than that stupid Weakest Link, where without fail the smartest player in voted off by the remaining other two. No way to outplay that system unless there’s some level of lying doggo enough to not be a threat but not flubbing too many questions.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/594 "2022-05-07T03:41:11Z")

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And there was much rejoicing!

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/595 "2022-05-07T04:08:36Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> The only way she wins the game is if she gets FJ right and the leader doesn’t. In that case, bet it all so as to maximize your winnings.

Isn’t that always true for the player in second?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/596 "2022-05-07T08:37:29Z")

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All in all, I’m very impressed with the fact that Mattea is only 23. Very much looking forward to this year’s TOC.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/597 "2022-05-07T14:37:59Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Isn’t that always true for the player in second?

Not necessarily. If it’s a close game, second place could win by betting nothing, hoping that first place bets big and misses FJ.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/598 "2022-05-07T15:00:13Z")

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As for Charles Foster Kane, I haven’t seen the movie in decades, and didn’t remember it starts with a newsreel. But I have been to Xanadu, I mean, Hearst Castle, which is how I got it.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Her hand gestures are fine.

I do think she flutters like a marionette, and she has tiny hands, but her over explaining is what bugs me. Still, much much less annoying than at least five other multi-champions.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/599 "2022-05-07T18:34:33Z")

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At one point she exclaimed something like, “I learned something!” Like she was surprised that there was something she didn’t already know 🙂

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/600 "2022-05-07T18:59:04Z")

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I’d read an interview where she attributed her success to just soaking up knowledge and from that context I thought she was just truly happy to learn a new item.

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