# Jeopardy discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [January 4, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207 "2022-01-04T18:16:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/921 "2022-06-16T13:40:02Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Visigoths were driving the Vandals from the Iberian peninsula

I guessed the correct answer on this question. But then I don’t know of any other flavor of Goths.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/922 "2022-06-16T14:45:23Z")

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There were also the Ostrogoths, who ended up largely in the Balkans.

Ostrogoths = Eastern Goths.  
Visigoths = Western Goths.

Actually, I don’t think that Visi- actually derives from any word for “west,” but it makes a handy mnemonic.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/923 "2022-06-16T15:18:06Z")

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Yeah, I saw that when I did a Google search on the Goths. I probably learned about both the Visigoths and Ostrogoths in my freshman History of Western Civ class, but that was over 50 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/924 "2022-06-16T17:52:58Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> The other day, I couldn’t believe than none of the contestants knew what SPCA stood for.

I know! I was hollering, “They gave you the initials!”

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/925 "2022-06-17T00:51:03Z")

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Well, the 6/16 Final Jeopardy “Debut Novels” was a disaster. I’ve never heard of it and apparently none of the contestants had either.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/926 "2022-06-17T06:59:55Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I know! I was hollering, “They gave you the initials!”

I was yelling exactly the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/927 "2022-06-17T12:23:32Z")

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I got it! Outlander is a very popular series of books by Diana Gabaldan, and a wonderful series on Starz.

> **[Outlander (TV series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlander_(TV_series))**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> Outlander is a historical drama television series based on the Outlander novel series by Diana Gabaldon. Developed by Ronald D. Moore, the show premiered on August 9, 2014, on Starz. It stars Caitríona Balfe as Claire Randall, a former Second World War military nurse in Scotland who, in 1945, finds herself transported back in time to 1743. There she encounters, falls in love with and marries a dashing Highland warrior named Jamie Fraser (Sam He...

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/928 "2022-06-17T21:51:14Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> I got it! Outlander is a very popular series of books by Diana Gabaldan …

I guessed (incorrectly) Harry Turtledove’s _The Guns of the South_. It came out in the wrong year (1992) but I knew it had been published somewhere in the ballpark. I’ve read that book, but not Turtledove’s subsequent series about the American South winning the Civil War–it turns out that that series is **not** a continuation of TGOTS, but instead has a separate premise.

Anyway, mistakenly believing as I did that TGOTS had sequels, it did seem to roughly fit the Final Jeopardy information.

> **[The Guns of the South](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guns_of_the_South)**
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> The Guns of the South is an alternate history novel set during the American Civil War by Harry Turtledove. It was released in the United States on September 22, 1992.
> The story deals with a group of time-traveling members of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB) from an imagined 21st-century South Africa, who supply Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia with AK-47s and other advanced technology, medicine and intelligence. Their intervention results in a Confederate victory in the war. After...

> **[Southern Victory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Victory)**
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> The Southern Victory series or Timeline-191 is a series of eleven alternate history novels by author Harry Turtledove, beginning with How Few Remain (1997) and published over a decade. The period addressed in the series begins during the Civil War and spans nine decades, up to the mid-1940s. In the series, the Confederate States defeats the United States of America in 1862, therefore making good its attempt at secession and becoming an independent nation. Subsequent books are built on im The seco...

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/929 "2022-06-18T00:27:03Z")

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6/17 Final Jeopardy.

Sadie got rooked. She clearly wrote the correct answer, but somewhat messily.

The producers should bring her back.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/930 "2022-06-18T01:34:05Z")

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Yes, she was ripped off. I clearly read harriet tubman.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/931 "2022-06-18T01:39:21Z")

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Agreed, I could make it out, knowing what to look for. Was her bet big enough to win though?

My laugh for the game was Molly giving the answer for Itasca: no, not Niagara (?!!), it’s the Mississippi. Being from Minnesota of course Molly would know that. Her smile while answering was almost a smirk.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/932 "2022-06-18T02:14:11Z")

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I’m thinking this is what happened: based on her two crossed out attempts, Sadie did not finish writing ‘Tubman’ in time. I think the judges saw that she was still writing when her time ran out. They turned the cameras off and asked her if she had finished, and she truthfully answered no. That would explain why Sadie was nodding her head when Mayim said she hadn’t finished in time.

So, while _we_ could see what looked like ‘Tubman’ written down, the _judges_ knew she didn’t get to ‘n.’

If it didn’t happen like this, the producers should invite her back.

Also, Megan clearly said “Lou GehriK’ - they should have ruled that an incorrect response.

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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/933 "2022-06-18T03:24:50Z")

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God, Mayim is so annoying. What exactly is so funny about someone finding a Daily Double?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/934 "2022-06-18T06:21:53Z")

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When is Ken coming back?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/935 "2022-06-18T13:40:54Z")

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She’s feigning enthusiasm as best she can.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/936 "2022-06-18T14:05:09Z")

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I think not until next season (fall). But there are rumors he’ll be the permanent host then.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/937 "2022-06-19T00:19:18Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> ’m thinking this is what happened: based on her two crossed out attempts, Sadie did not finish writing ‘Tubman’ in time. I think the judges saw that she was still writing when her time ran out. They turned the cameras off and asked her if she had finished, and she truthfully answered no. That would explain why Sadie was nodding her head when Mayim said she hadn’t finished in time.

They wouldn’t have to ask. The judges can see what is being written on the contestant’s screens, and the light pen becomes inactive when time expires. They could have seen, in real time, that she was still attempting to write when time ran out.

It’s close, but I didn’t see anything that looked like the final “n” in Sadie’s response. I think the fact that she seemed to accept the judgement indicates that she too knew that she hadn’t finished the word.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/938 "2022-06-19T02:30:57Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> It’s close, but I didn’t see anything that looked like the final “n” in Sadie’s response.

So, it’s assumed that her answer was “Harriet Tubma” ??? What bullshit.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/939 "2022-06-19T02:37:30Z")

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I presume there is just a rule that you must finish whatever you wrote, to prevent you delaying until the last possible second.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/940 "2022-06-19T02:43:01Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I know! I was hollering, “They gave you the initials!”

This reminds me of a friend’s mother, who was convinced the yogurt chain TCBY stood for “Thank God It’s Yogurt.”

I don’t see it mentioned, but I think the award for Cringe-Worthiest Answer of the Year goes to the guy who mistook Michael Caine for Mick Jagger.

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