# Jeopardy discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [January 4, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207 "2022-01-04T18:16:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1001 "2022-06-24T03:02:41Z")

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“Southern rock” was misleading.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1002 "2022-06-24T11:02:12Z")

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I knew the Farragut quote immediately, but there’s less than a 1% chance that I will know _any_ rock album title, so I guessed. Figuring that the whole quote was too long, I went with _full speed ahead_. 🙂

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1003 "2022-06-24T11:24:21Z")

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“You may fire when ready, Gridley.”

(“Unfortunately for the Spanish, Gridley was ready.”)

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1004 "2022-06-24T12:19:58Z")

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The only particularly famous quote from a Civil War admiral is Farragut’s “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!”, so it was easy for me to get. I didn’t know whose album it was from, so whether or not Tom Petty counts as southern didn’t enter my mind (although I will note that he did have a song and album called “Southern Accents,” so it’s not that far-fetched to call him a southern rocker).

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1005 "2022-06-24T13:36:58Z")

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> [@Arcite](#):
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> Anyone else think that Tweedleee and Tweedledum clue was poorly worded?

No. I thought it pretty clearly just wanted _one_ name and was glad they reversed ruling her correct. There were soooo many times during her run where she did not seem to read the clue properly.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1006 "2022-06-24T13:56:12Z")

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I ran the list of Southern rockers in my head, snd Tom Petty never came up. He might be from Florida, but his sound isnt “southern rock” to me…

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1007 "2022-06-24T14:11:24Z")

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More like “Generic Rock” than Southern Rock.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1008 "2022-06-24T19:46:38Z")

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The clue was “This classic album by a Southern rocker…”

Petty’s music wasn’t pure Southern rock (like the Allman Brothers or Marshall Tucker), but he was a rocker from the South, so I guess the clue was correct in that sense.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1009 "2022-06-24T22:59:58Z")

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> [@Arcite](#):
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> I kept thinking of Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, et al. But I couldn’t think of a Southern Rock solo artist who fit the bill.

I had the same experience. Didn’t think of Petty.

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> > [@Arcite](#):
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> > Anyone else think that Tweedleee and Tweedledum clue was poorly worded?
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> No. I thought it pretty clearly just wanted _one_ name and was glad they reversed ruling her correct. …

They could have been clearer. How about

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> _ **This individual from a pair of “Through the Looking Glass” characters fits the category.** _

88 characters-plus-spaces, versus 87 for the one they actually used.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1010 "2022-06-24T23:22:14Z")

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Tweedledee and Tweedledum should never be separated ([and bonus if I get name-checked too!)](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpzn56yOjQs)

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1011 "2022-06-24T23:36:11Z")

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(6/24) I bet some Dopers knew that rifle caliber, as well as said it aloud in Edward Woodward’s voice.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1012 "2022-06-25T00:52:36Z")

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_The Washington Post_ has an article today about the run of winning streaks this season. Here is a gift link: [Confounded by Winning Streak](https://wapo.st/3u0Nl4L)

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1013 "2022-06-25T01:53:49Z")

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Living in Gainesville, I never think of Tom Petty any other way. 🤘

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1014 "2022-06-25T02:20:58Z")

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Between the NBA finals and Stanley Cup, Jeopardy here has been pre-empted more often than not the last two weeks. But when they pre-empted it for the _NBA draft_…my God, that’s too far. This aggression will not stand, man.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1015 "2022-06-25T02:41:39Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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It was when they preempted it for the Jan 6 insurrection that it became personal for me.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1016 "2022-06-25T20:34:19Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Between the NBA finals and Stanley Cup, Jeopardy here has been pre-empted more often than not the last two weeks.

Yeah, what the hell is it with the Stanley Cup in June? I thought ice hockey was a _winter_ sport. What are they trying to pull?

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1017 "2022-06-26T18:39:49Z")

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my 2 cents Final choice Ken and Mayim for specials.

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1018 "2022-06-28T18:17:02Z")

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> [@jaycat](#):
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> I don’t think of Tom Petty as a “Southern rocker,” but I guess he was born in Florida.

> [@Railer13](#):
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> Petty’s music wasn’t pure Southern rock (like the Allman Brothers or Marshall Tucker), but he was a rocker from the South, so I guess the clue was correct in that sense.

Don’t forget Lynyrd Skynyrd.

> [@Rebo](#):
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> [Tom Petty] might be from Florida, but his sound isn’t “southern rock” to me…

(Et cetera)

Poorly written indeed! Apparently, they meant “a person from the South who plays Rock,” not “a person who plays Southern Rock.”

Many here agree that Petty is in the first group but not the second. OTOH, Wikipedia includes Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers in their List of Southern Rock Bands.

> **[List of southern rock bands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_southern_rock_bands)**
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> This is a list of Southern rock bands that fall into one of the following four categories, with a sign denoting them as such following the description.

Tom Petty is originally from Florida (Gainesville), but the reason I don’t think of him as a “Southern Rocker” is that I don’t think of Florida as part of The South. It is geographically south of Georgia, but its culture is not like Alabama, etc (altho maybe the Panhandle might be).

He is not alone.

REM are from Georgia (Athens), but nobody thinks of THEM as Southern Rock.

Jimmy Buffet was born in Mississippi (Pascagoula), and eventually settled in Florida (Key West), but nobody thinks of HIM as Southern Rock.

Dr John & The Neville Brothers are from Louisiana (New Orleans), but nobody thinks of THEM as Southern Rock.

Perhaps we’re over-thinking this.

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1019 "2022-06-28T18:17:55Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Between the NBA finals and Stanley Cup, Jeopardy here has been pre-empted more often than not the last two weeks.

To preempt or not is up to the local station.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeopardy-discussion/957207/1020 "2022-06-28T18:21:39Z")

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> [@Steven\_Maven](#):
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> REM are from Georgia (Athens), but nobody thinks of THEM as Southern Rock.

Not to mention the B-52s

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