# Jeremiah Wright Steps In It Again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393 "2009-06-10T23:32:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/201 "2009-06-12T20:07:54Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> The link in the OP still works. Have you tried that?

:dubious: Are you joking? Or do you not realize that I was joking?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/202 "2009-06-12T20:08:49Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> :dubious: Are you joking? Or do you not realize that I was joking?

I did not. Apologies.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/203 "2009-06-12T20:27:55Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Yes, I too was looking for a way to link gay marriage to this debate.

Point \<---- ------\>FinnAgain

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/204 "2009-06-12T20:45:58Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I didn’t understand anything here except that Tony Blair didn’t convert to Catholicism in Anglican Britain.

Well, that’s all you really needed to understand. Tony Blair was essentially a practicing Catholic while he was PM, but didn’t “officially” convert because Catholics aren’t allowed to be PM. It’s not as though anyone would have made a fuss, though- probably not even HRM.

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> Point \<---- ------\>FinnAgain

I don’t get it either. Is Wright entering a beauty pageant? Did he pose topless?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/205 "2009-06-12T22:20:22Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Don’t be so faggy.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Did you just the word “faggy”? Are you ten years old?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/206 "2009-06-13T01:43:11Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Did you just the word “faggy”? Are you ten years old?

Just Shodanizing the discussion. Shodan goes off subject and gets personal. That is what he does. To stay on subject would just not be fun for him.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/207 "2009-06-13T01:50:56Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Just Shodanizing the discussion. Shodan goes off subject and gets personal. That is what he does. To stay on subject would just not be fun for him.

Yeah, Shodan is all faggy like that.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/208 "2009-06-13T03:23:29Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Yeah, Shodan is all faggy like that.

And his shit’s all retarded.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/209 "2009-06-13T03:46:56Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Did you just the word “faggy”? Are you ten years old?

[Do you know about this thread?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508844)

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/210 "2009-06-13T14:39:07Z")

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I can’t believe this thread goes on and on over what is essentially an accidental misstatment with no hidden meanings. A slip of the tongue that could happen to anyone. Why, just this morning I meant to say to my wife, “Would you like another cup of coffee?”, but instead accidentally said, “You ruined my life, you heartless soul-sucking bitch.” So you see, no subtext there.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/211 "2009-06-13T14:44:43Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> I can’t believe this thread goes on and on over what is essentially an accidental misstatment with no hidden meanings. A slip of the tongue that could happen to anyone. Why, just this morning I meant to say to my wife, “Would you like another cup of coffee?”, but instead accidentally said, “You ruined my life, you heartless soul-sucking bitch.” So you see, no subtext there.

But if you had apologized and said “I meant ‘heartless soul-sucking cunt,’” it would’ve been alright.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/212 "2009-06-13T15:14:59Z")

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> [@5-4-Fighting](#):
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> But if you had apologized and said “I meant ‘heartless soul-sucking cunt,’” it would’ve been alright.

Surely, you mean “Zionist soul-sucking cunt” would make it all better.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/213 "2009-06-13T16:17:17Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The only thing he was wrong about was **the government causing AIDS** , but that’s just paranoid, not offensive, and **not that far fetched considering Tuskeegee**.

**Dio** , I was wrong about you. You’re not ignorant, spiteful, and arrogant, you’re just completely fuckin’ nuts.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/214 "2009-06-13T17:39:54Z")

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I wish people could just ignore Wright. He only speaks for himself and does not deserve all the attention posters give him. He is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/215 "2009-06-13T18:46:02Z")

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Jeepers, in the past couple of days, we’ve had right-wingers busting blood vessels over non-events involving Sarah Palin and Jeremiah Wright. Now, if we’re really lucky maybe we can come up with a teapot tempest involving Bill Ayers, for the hat trick.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/216 "2009-06-13T20:34:22Z")

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> [@Early\_Out](#):
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> The book was about people with fairly extreme fundamentalist views, but the quote applies to all religious belief - faith is the opposite of reason.

Yes, but the relationship of faith and reason is highly complicated and that quote does it no justice at all. It’s just more Beavis and Butthead - Religious people are stupid…huh huh huh… yeah…stupid!

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> I don’t think every religious person is Warren Jeffs, but I think all religious belief falls into the same broad category. It’s a demonstration of the willingness of people to believe in things that make no sense, and for which there’s no evidence. There are degrees of silliness within the spectrum, but it’s all silliness, in the end.

Oh I agree. The number of people who believe in the Big Bang and yet couldn’t even pass a high school physics exam is astounding. It’s amazing to me how many people just believe what they are told because of consensus opinion in their culture.

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> If people get some comfort from going to church and engaging in rituals, I wouldn’t dream of denying them that comfort. But that doesn’t make any of it believable or justifiable on an intellectual level.

Eh, this is the heart of the simplistic anti-intellectual nonsense. There is just way too much to go into, and it’s not worth even trying to start with someone who is sufficiently convinced that all religion is, is a panacea for morons.

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> I genuinely believe that humanity would be in much better shape if the seemingly inherent tendency to believe in the supernatural could be eliminated. I concede that it can’t be - it seems that every culture comes up with similar flights of fancy when confronted by anything it doesn’t immediately understand - but that’s no reason to surrender to it.

I’d love it if we could eradicate the tendency to believe anything that one cannot prove themselves. 😉 Though of course we would have to discard science if we did that because most of the people who believe in science have no fucking clue how things actually work. 😃

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/217 "2009-06-13T20:35:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, that’s all you really needed to understand. Tony Blair was essentially a practicing Catholic while he was PM, but didn’t “officially” convert because Catholics aren’t allowed to be PM. It’s not as though anyone would have made a fuss, though- probably not even HRM.

I actually didn’t know that. That’s interesting.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/218 "2009-06-13T20:36:27Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> And his shit’s all retarded.

That’s ok though, my sister was tarded once, she’s a pilot now.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/219 "2009-06-13T20:58:48Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, that’s all you really needed to understand. Tony Blair was essentially a practicing Catholic while he was PM, but didn’t “officially” convert because Catholics aren’t allowed to be PM. It’s not as though anyone would have made a fuss, though- probably not even HRM.

There’s no restriction against a Catholic becoming Prime Minister. A Catholic Prime Minister wouldn’t be able to participate in the selection of bishops, but there’s no restriction against a Catholic PM (and, in recent years, both the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats had Catholic party leaders who would have become PM had things been different)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremiah-wright-steps-in-it-again/499393/220 "2009-06-13T22:26:49Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> [Do you know about this thread?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508844)

I didn’t, no. And I withdraw the question from **Shodan** , with apologies.

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