# Jeremy Clarkson is a pig

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-clarkson-is-a-pig/976814 "2022-12-19T22:53:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-clarkson-is-a-pig/976814/160 "2023-01-26T12:45:29Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I’m not aware of the exchange you are mentioning, could you link to it?

Yes, here: [Is it racist to use the term 'Master Bedroom' - #278 by Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-racist-to-use-the-term-master-bedroom/973613/278)

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I disagree, the watering-down of terms and unthinking acceptance of all claims is ultimately harmful to the pursuit of equality. It is far easier to avoid pushing back at all and not question. Certainly it is easier to take that road when the price of pushing back is personal attacks lies and misrepresentation.

I think it’s fair to question these things, but in this thread you:

1. Began by quoting a post which (I thought) was pretty clearly saying Markle has been a victim of racism in general and asking if that applied to Clarkson’s comment, which was a (quickly refuted) strawman.
2. Have had it explained by several posters why his remarks were unacceptable, but your conclusion is that it’s OK because he’s only joking.

My point is not just that it’s hard to distinguish your position from that of a racist/misogynist. It’s fine if you don’t care about that perception, but if you really want to pursue equality, you may want to consider that taking such positions might make it easier for insidious racism and misogyny to flourish.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I don’t believe that he hates women and don’t think that this article is evidence that he does.

I don’t think that’s really the point - the point is that he made an unacceptable remark that could well incite (further) hatred against someone, which had misogynistic overtones. It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t actually hate women and it doesn’t matter that he was joking.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> He thought he went too far in the joke, has apologised and that should be the end of it.

Well, it is - I don’t think anyone is suggesting responding in kind by literally throwing shit at him, just that a lot of people have concluded he is an arse who should shut up and go away. He has such a long record for this sort of thing that even if his apology was sincere, it’s not enough. He is a classic recidivist. And his publishers at the Sun and The Sunday Times are almost equally culpable both in allowing this and continuing to pay him for it over the years.

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