# Jeremy Corbyn is still a disaster **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 29, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239 "2016-09-29T21:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/181 "2017-06-10T06:44:40Z")
Corbyn definitely beat expectations but the expectations were so low in large part because he has been such a woeful leader. And Labour is a party which won three election in a row not that long ago. They should not be treating a defeat as some kind of major victory. Corbyn is still a fairly unpopular leader with an approval rating of around 35%. This election was more a vote against the woeful May than a ringing endorsement of Corbyn. ---
**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/182 "2017-06-10T08:26:24Z")
I’d like to see the next round of opinion polls actually. I suspect Corbyn’s - and Labour’s - approval ratings will increase. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/183 "2017-06-10T09:02:54Z")
A conviction, people-orientated politician running a short campaign based on his own manifesto is a very long way from the skills needed to lead a party - imo, while ‘leadership’ came up during the election Corbyn didn’t actually have to do much leading. It remains an issue. What I would say is Labour made some super-smart strategic decisions in the last 7 weeks, and that is new (they are usually weak on that), and JC would have had final approval on that. So, that’s something … As his opponents in the party made clear, whatever happens, Corbyn owns this result: BOOM! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/184 "2017-06-10T14:26:24Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > What I would say is Labour made some super-smart strategic decisions in the last 7 weeks, and that is new (they are usually weak on that), and JC would have had final approval on that. So, that’s something … The early “leaking” of the manifesto turned out well, for a start. It allowed a few potential landmines to be defused before the official launch. I was impressed by the campaign in general though. Calm and measured works! The boy done good, as they say. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/185 "2017-06-10T14:44:42Z")
For me was they way they harnessed potential in the yoof, who you simply cannot reach by conventional means i.e. canvassing. No one _got_ it, esp. journalists asking Corbyn what he was doing in safe Labour seats at the end of a campaign, that was he so concerned about the core vote he had to be there … They missed the point entirely, everyone did - except those who paid attention to the Bernie Sanders campaign. Labour created a happening, an event, the movement of the moment, the late surge no one my age saw - like the band you have to like this week. It was entirely on social media; Labour portrayed massive events full of energy and chants. That’s how you get to the yoof, and God it worked beautifully. It worked especially for people like this brilliant new MP in my next door constituency - this MP is going to help me try to pull of a valuable social project 🙂 [![](https://vumbnail.com/218030422.jpg "Marsha de Cordova INTRO relinked") ](https://vimeo.com/218030422) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QtwayCa2gHg/maxresdefault.jpg "Battersea - General Election Declaration") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtwayCa2gHg) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/186 "2017-06-10T15:08:32Z")
What is this “yoof” stuff, some kind of ethnic stereotype? ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/187 "2017-06-10T16:43:32Z")
dunno ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/188 "2017-06-10T17:52:39Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > What I would say is Labour made some super-smart strategic decisions in the last 7 weeks, The big one was to let the Tories keep on making those mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/189 "2017-06-10T18:05:23Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What is this “yoof” stuff, some kind of ethnic stereotype? It’s how the British spell “yoot.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/190 "2017-06-11T01:55:48Z")
You know… for the kids! ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/191 "2017-06-11T03:55:53Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > British liberal Trump. After hearing him speak, he seems to have a completely different style compared to Trump. It’s more of an appeal to an intelligent left leaning firebrand faction compared to the drunks who just left a cracker barrel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239.md?page=9)