# Jeremy Corbyn is still a disaster

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 29, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239 "2016-09-29T21:13:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/61 "2017-01-11T23:22:39Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> BBC isn’t a government contractor, of course.

I believe it is, through the World Service.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/62 "2017-01-11T23:50:28Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I believe it is, through the World Service.

World Service used to be funded via the Foreign Office budget, but it was ran independently, same as any other BBC service. Its funding got folded into the general BBC fee budget a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/63 "2017-01-12T01:42:18Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> [snip] Diane Abbott (thick as mince).

I know nought about her, but–is there a rule that English-speaking countries have to have a thickheaded boor named Abbott in politics?

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/64 "2017-01-12T09:38:44Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’m sure that was quite deliberate on the part of the BBC. I think I heard mention that one of the ways was limiting salaries of government contractors, which, of course, includes the BBC.

I don’t think it’s got anything to do with the BBC. It’s a combination of Corbyn giving a stupid answer to a fair question, and me having a poor memory.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/65 "2017-01-12T10:46:14Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> World Service used to be funded via the Foreign Office budget, but it was ran independently, same as any other BBC service. Its funding got folded into the general BBC fee budget a few years ago.

Ah, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/66 "2017-01-12T10:47:52Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> I don’t think it’s got anything to do with the BBC. It’s a combination of Corbyn giving a stupid answer to a fair question

Par for the course.

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> and me having a poor memory.

A rare lapse; my own memory is like a sieve these days.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/67 "2017-01-12T15:15:40Z")

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[Corbyn taking direction from Diane Abbott](https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/82275/jeremy-corbyn-changed-immigration)

This clown doesn’t have a position on immigration or free movement of people? Pick a position and stay consistent and don’t listen to fucking Diane Abbott.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/68 "2017-01-12T15:44:13Z")

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We British Dopers get double the fun: Trump and Corbyn! 🙂

If only it weren’t actually serious.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/69 "2017-01-12T16:13:08Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> We British Dopers get double the fun: Trump and Corbyn! 🙂
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> If only it weren’t actually serious.

You forgot Boris Johnson.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/70 "2017-01-12T18:15:04Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I know nought about her, but–is there a rule that English-speaking countries have to have a thickheaded boor named Abbott in politics?

I can’t think of one of any prominence in the U.S.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/71 "2017-01-12T18:19:52Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> You forgot Boris Johnson.

I’m desperately trying to not remember him!

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**Author:** ![AshbydelaZouch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@AshbydelaZouch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshbydelaZouch)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/72 "2017-01-12T19:33:17Z")

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Corbyn had such a great opportunity to raise awareness about the NHS, but - I think - he didn’t unpick any of the key issues. It’s such a shame; despite the Red Cross’ having a headline grabbing ‘…it’s the apocalypse!’ meltdown.

He failed to mention that the Red Cross has been paid by the NHS to provide transport for some time now. He failed to mention that G4S - the company that usually provides transport - are paid to provide the NHS with an inadequate service; with little possibility of a new tender being put out to replace them…market forces, etc etc.

He didn’t talk much about how all this is compounded by the fact that bottom-of-the-barrel social care - not provided by the NHS - is stopping practitioners from safely discharging patients and adding to the re-admission fines.

Corbyn simply did a lot of what he does best: much hand-wringing about point-scoring issues that fail to address the problem in question.

I think he’s still very much a disaster, but what’s the alternative?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/73 "2017-01-12T22:51:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I can’t think of one of any prominence in the U.S.

Texas governor Greg Abbott isn’t Tony Abbott, but he still gets caught in false steps at times.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/74 "2017-01-12T23:54:42Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> You forgot Boris Johnson.

Now you’ve made me think of him, Johnson does not compare to Trump and Corbyn. Johnson has a sharp mind and plays the buffoon; the other two don’t have sharp minds aren’t playing.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/75 "2017-01-14T04:17:01Z")

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[Tristam Hunt resigns as MP for Stoke-on-Trent](https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/82328/tristram-hunt-takes-veiled-swipe)

From my understand, this is one of the constituencies that would have been abolished after the Commons is reduced to 600 seats. I’m sure he didn’t want to have to deal with having to stand in a new constituency against the Corbyn purists.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/76 "2017-01-14T20:28:15Z")

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Well, this is no surprise, it’s just a shame Corbyn couldn’t deliver a message in a postman’s sack:

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> Jeremy Corbyn’s recent proposal to introduce a cap on executive wages at firms with government contracts is backed by the majority of the public, a new poll suggests.
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> Research for The Independent reveals that the government encouraging companies to introduce a wage cap for bosses earning more than 20 times that of their lowest paid worker is supported by 57 per cent of the public. Just 30 per cent of those surveyed disagreed

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> The results also found similar responses among all age groups and across all areas of the country, suggesting there is a high degree of enthusiasm for the policy, which was floated by the Labour leader in Peterborough. Even among Conservative voters, the proposal is supported by 47 per cent, with just over 40 per cent in opposition. The figure is much higher with those who voted Labour at the 2015 election, at 68 per cent.

> **[A majority of the public support Corbyn’s most controversial idea, poll suggests](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/majority-of-public-support-jeremy-corbyn-s-plans-to-cap-bosses-salaries-poll-finds-a7527381.html)**
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> Responding to the results, Mr Corbyn told The Independent: ‘Levels of inequality are grotesque and hurt the economy. While establishment commentators slammed our policy for tackling pay inequality, the public support it because they can see...

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/77 "2017-01-14T20:54:56Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Texas governor Greg Abbott isn’t Tony Abbott, but he still gets caught in false steps at times.

This was either the cheapest of jibes, or a rather unfortunate turn of phrase.🙂

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/78 "2017-01-15T04:06:39Z")

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Eh? All I meant was that the occasional misstep, or\* faux pas,\* seems to be a trait of the Australian and Texan Abbotts.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/79 "2017-01-26T15:56:56Z")

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Yet another threat of front bench resignations as Corbyn [imposes a 3 line whip on the Article 50 vote](https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy-agenda/brexit/news/82742/jeremy-corbyn-risks-frontbench-resignations-he)

Corbyn often defied the whip when he was a gadfly backbencher. But, he is a total fool for trying this. If he has any sense he’ll reverse course and allow a free vote.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-corbyn-is-still-a-disaster/767239/80 "2017-02-23T20:00:35Z")

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There are two by-elections today to replace Labour MPs who have resigned. If Labour loses both of them, there might be additional pressure on Corbyn to resign.  
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