# Jeremy Jackson - I hope you rot in jail **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332 "2008-07-13T15:19:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/41 "2008-07-15T14:20:39Z")
> [@Joe Mama](#): > > I see it as much more diverse than one guy just punching anothers face in. True. They also kick each other. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/42 "2008-07-15T14:29:40Z")
[QUOTE=Tom Tildrum] Do we know what the evidence against Jackson is? I assume they’ve got something solid, since they’ve arrested him. But I’m remembering the recent case of Rikki Rockett, the former drummer of Poison, who was charged with rape and later exonerated. Apparently, the victim was raped by a totally different man, who was impersonating Rockett. [/QUOTE] Personally, I’d be okay with sending anyone who was in Poison to prison, no matter how trumped-up the charge. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/43 "2008-07-15T15:51:27Z")
MMA, for those who don’t want to google, is a mix of kick-boxing, wresting, etc. (mixed martial arts) where two men go into a “cage” (I believe octagonal?) with no helmets, only lightly padded fists, no shoes/boots–basically a pair of shorts and some light gloves–and try to either knock the other out, choke them out, or force them into submission (a “tap out” where they signal they’re done.) It can get bloody, and usually does, but it’s a sport that requires considerable skill, fitness, and strategy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/44 "2008-07-15T16:13:58Z")
I think something like that was playing on one of the televisions where I worked last year, and I walked by and caught a glimpse of it. Appalling. I wondered why their mothers weren’t pulling them off to their bedrooms by their ears, to stay and think about what they were doing, and to not come out until they were ready to apologize to one another and try to work out their differences like civilized human beings. Maybe they weren’t brought up very well. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/45 "2008-07-15T16:22:31Z")
[QUOTE=TroubleAgain] MMA, for those who don’t want to google, is a mix of kick-boxing, wresting, etc. (mixed martial arts) where two men go into a “cage” (I believe octagonal?) with no helmets, only lightly padded fists, no shoes/boots–basically a pair of shorts and some light gloves–and try to either knock the other out, choke them out, or force them into submission (a “tap out” where they signal they’re done.) It can get bloody, and usually does, but it’s a sport that requires considerable skill, fitness, and strategy. [/QUOTE] The octagon cage is UFC’s ring, but not all MMA promoters use it. Square cages and conventional boxing/wrestling rings are equally common. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/46 "2008-07-16T01:45:57Z")
[QUOTE=Joe Mama] People like Jeremy Jackson make me want to fucking puke. He has been a veteran of this sport for many years, and he has seen first hand the struggles that this sport (and the athletes) have had to endure. I disgusts me to know that this loser has such poor impulse control that he blew the opportunity of a lifetime just to get a piece of ass (that he just met no less) - _See TUF season 4_ And then resorts to one of the lowest of low - rape. Granted he may have been on this same path regardless of whether he was a professional athlete or not, but goddamnit! Its shit like this that reaffirms the views of our (possible) future leaders like John McCain, and the uneducated viewer as well. I think that being a professional athlete carries certain responsibilities and especially now that MMA is in the mainstream its even more important. [/QUOTE] Just in time for the OP’s rant, [another UFC fighter with the last name Jackson was arrested today](http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-071508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns): > [@](#): > > Dondero said Jackson, a resident of Irvine, Calif., ignored the officer and continued driving with the officer in pursuit. > > Police had received a report of a vehicle involved in a collision on the 55 Freeway in Costa Mesa, which struck other vehicles and fled the scene, Dondero said. > > The chase continued with the vehicle weaving in and out of traffic, including at one point driving on the wrong side of the road and even on a sidewalk, scaring pedestrians. > > Dondero said Jackson hit two cars at 19th Street and Newport Boulevard at 1:13 p.m., but failed to stop. He said a Costa Mesa police officer saw the truck near 17th Street and attempted to pull it over. > > Jackson fled and hit at least one more car before the five-minute chase ended with his arrest, the lieutenant said. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/47 "2008-07-16T09:05:04Z")
[QUOTE=neutron star] Just in time for the OP’s rant, [another UFC fighter with the last name Jackson was arrested today](http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-071508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns): [/QUOTE] Oh damn. And unlike Jeremie Jackson, Rampage is a headliner. Was the UFC Heavyweight Champion until Forrest Griffin beat him not a week or two ago. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Mama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@Joe\_Mama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Mama)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/48 "2008-07-16T10:12:04Z")
That is classic… Wow, way to put another black eye unto the sport. (No pun intended - in more than one way…) Sheesh, what an idiot. -Me ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/49 "2008-07-16T14:29:21Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] The octagon cage is UFC’s ring, but not all MMA promoters use it. Square cages and conventional boxing/wrestling rings are equally common. [/QUOTE] Good point–I’m really only familiar with UFC, because some friends of ours like to host pay-per-view parties for the UFC fights. There’s food, and socialization, some blood-sport, and everyone contributes to the cost of the fight, and has a good time. (I spend most of my time in the kitchen. :D) Oh, and they wager pushups on the fights. The loser has to do his pushups (usually 50) in front of everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/50 "2008-07-16T23:59:40Z")
[QUOTE=Cyberhwk] Oh damn. And unlike Jeremie Jackson, Rampage is a headliner. Was the UFC Heavyweight Champion until Forrest Griffin beat him not a week or two ago. :eek: [/QUOTE] Light Heavyweight Champion. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/51 "2008-07-17T14:27:43Z")
Gotta love a guy who flees the scene of the crime in a truck with his picture on it. “Jackson was arrested at gunpoint after shredding his left front tire on his custom Ford F250 pickup during a pursuit up Newport Boulevard. The vehicle features images of Jackson on the side along with the logo of Toyo Tires, another sponsor that reportedly gifted the truck to him.” [UFC star Jackson arrested after truck chase](http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25695898/) ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/52 "2008-07-17T15:18:29Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] I haven’t heard an official definition, because pretty much everyone involved in a blood sport denies their sport is one. \*\* But I would be confident in saying that any sport where participants deliberately pound on each others bodies and blood is occasionaly drawn is a blood sport. \*\* Maybe that’s too narrow. It leaves things out like bull fighting or dog fighting. How about combat sports that that frequently result in bleeding or injury? Yes, absolutely this mixed martial arts thing is a blood sport by any reasonable definition. [/QUOTE] Bolding mine. I don’t like that definition one bit; it makes rugby a bloodsport. [QUOTE=Joe Mama] That is classic… Wow, way to put another black eye unto the sport. (No pun intended - in more than one way…) [/quote] Is it possible to have no pun intended in more than one way? Doesn’t that make it pun intended? [QUOTE=Joe Mama] Sheesh, what an idiot. -Me [/QUOTE] Heh. I’m with you on the RO, though. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/53 "2008-07-17T15:37:01Z")
I hope y’all don’t mind the highjack: I missed the July 5th Pay Per View of Griffin v. Jackson. The link above (in post #46) said that the fight stoppage was “controversial”. Can someone elaberate? The UFC news article (here: [http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=13203](http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=13203) ) does not. ---
**Author:** ![Flyhalf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ea5d25/32.png) [@Flyhalf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyhalf)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/54 "2008-07-17T17:49:28Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] I don’t like that definition one bit; it makes rugby a bloodsport. [/QUOTE] Isn’t it, Santo? Isn’t it? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/55 "2008-07-17T18:34:55Z")
[QUOTE=mlees] I hope y’all don’t mind the highjack: I missed the July 5th Pay Per View of Griffin v. Jackson. The link above (in post #46) said that the fight stoppage was “controversial”. Can someone elaberate? The UFC news article (here: [UFC Fight Cards, Watch Times, Live Stats | UFC.com](http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=13203) ) does not. [/QUOTE] It wasn’t a stoppage, it was a unanimous decision, and it wasn’t really all that controversial. Griffin looked like the clear winner, and even Jackson agreed later that he “whooped my ass.” ETA: spoke too soon. [UFC 86 Fallout: Possible Protest, Rematch](http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/ufc-86-fallout-possible-protest-rematch-13575) ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/56 "2008-07-17T18:47:18Z")
[QUOTE=pravnik] It wasn’t a stoppage, it was a unanimous decision, and it wasn’t really all that controversial. Griffin looked like the clear winner, and even Jackson agreed later that he “whooped my ass.” ETA: spoke too soon. [UFC 86 Fallout: Possible Protest, Rematch](http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/ufc-86-fallout-possible-protest-rematch-13575) [/QUOTE] Ok. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/57 "2008-07-17T19:04:58Z")
[QUOTE=pravnik] It wasn’t a stoppage, it was a unanimous decision, and it wasn’t really all that controversial. Griffin looked like the clear winner, and even Jackson agreed later that he “whooped my ass.” [/QUOTE] “Clear winner”? Of round 2, sure, and maybe round 5, but Rampage won 1, 3, and 4. He should’ve won the fight, or at worst a draw if they gave round two 10-8 to Forrest. They need to stop using boxing judges to score a different sport. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/58 "2008-07-17T19:12:57Z")
[QUOTE=Flyhalf] Isn’t it, Santo? Isn’t it? 🆒 [/QUOTE] Well, yeah. But I don’t like outsiders thinking of it that way. Gives us a bad name. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/59 "2008-07-17T19:25:42Z")
[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo] Wow, starting a Pit thread for your third post here as a guest. And making that RO to boot. Just wow. [/QUOTE] I don’t get this at all. He explained his passion and connection to the sport. It was well written and there was plenty of pit worthy outrage. And low post count - so what? I’ll take this newby post over link and a “fuck you” from a vet any day. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332/60 "2008-07-17T20:20:35Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] “Clear winner”? Of round 2, sure, and maybe round 5, but Rampage won 1, 3, and 4. He should’ve won the fight, or at worst a draw if they gave round two 10-8 to Forrest. They need to stop using boxing judges to score a different sport. [/QUOTE] You think? I had Forrest winning at least 3 out of the last 4, but I’d be willing to watch again and reconsider. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeremy-jackson-i-hope-you-rot-in-jail/456332.md?page=4)