# Jericho fall finale 11/29

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 29, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224 "2006-11-29T18:35:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/1 "2006-11-29T18:35:16Z")

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Big Things should happen in this one. One hopes so, anyway.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/2 "2006-11-29T19:52:58Z")

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I’m hoping the Brain-Eating Zombies will show up in the last 3 minutes, and we’ll be left hanging till January (or February?) as to what happens to the poor little town of Jericho.

😃

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/3 "2006-11-30T02:05:15Z")

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You know, there’s “predictable” and there’s “stupid,” and then there’s _Jericho_.

Who amongst you didn’t know even before tonight’s show stated that not only did Jonah _not_ kill Gracie, but that Mitch did?

Or that Roger wouldn’t be amongst that bunch wandering into town?

Or that Dale wouldn’t pull the trigger after MayorDad insisted “the boy doesn’t have that in him”?

This show is definitely my favorite comedy!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/4 "2006-11-30T02:08:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
You know, there’s “predictable” and there’s “stupid,” and then there’s _Jericho_.

Who amongst you didn’t know even before tonight’s show stated that not only did Jonah _not_ kill Gracie, but that Mitch did?

Or that Roger wouldn’t be amongst that bunch wandering into town?

Or that Dale wouldn’t pull the trigger after MayorDad insisted “the boy doesn’t have that in him”?

This show is definitely my favorite comedy!  
[/QUOTE]

Sorry you don’t like it.  
Good thing for me that lots of other people do. That way I still get to watch it. And I guess it’s good for you, too, since you apparently enjoy mocking it.

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**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/5 "2006-11-30T02:10:39Z")

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It’s fun to watch with the kids, I agree all the plot twists were telgraphed neatly…get it? GET IT? TELEGRAPHED??? See, they have this Morse Code thing that…

Yeah it’s about that obvious.

Kinda pissed that there has been absolutely no contact with the outside world, irl no town that size would be that isolated.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/6 "2006-11-30T02:16:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
Who amongst you didn’t know even before tonight’s show stated that not only did Jonah _not_ kill Gracie, but that Mitch did?

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Hell, I was surpirsed he tried to blame it on Jonah. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/7 "2006-11-30T02:18:25Z")

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[QUOTE=RikWriter]  
Sorry you don’t like it.  
Good thing for me that lots of other people do. That way I still get to watch it. And I guess it’s good for you, too, since you apparently enjoy mocking it.  
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No, no, you misunderstand me. I love it! I adore it! I just refuse to take even a shred of it seriously. The plot holes are so huge, it’s hilarious! Okay, it’s supposed to be a drama, but for me it works perfectly as a comedy.

And I’m not the only one. In [Client Challenge](http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/tv/4365890.htmlthis) article about the show in today’s Houston paper, the executive producer says:

> [@Jon Turteltaub](#):
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> “Plus,” he jokes, “if we really get desperate, there are always giant radiated scorpions to battle with spears.”

And tonight we finally got Zombies!

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/8 "2006-11-30T02:19:26Z")

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Grrr…coding errors.

[This article](http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/tv/4365890.html)

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/9 "2006-11-30T02:39:40Z")

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I liked this episode a lot. It was still idiotic in typical Jericho fashion, but at least it was interesting. Stuff actually happened.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/10 "2006-11-30T03:20:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
You know, there’s “predictable” and there’s “stupid,” and then there’s _Jericho_.

Who amongst you didn’t know even before tonight’s show stated that not only did Jonah _not_ kill Gracie, but that Mitch did?

Or that Roger wouldn’t be amongst that bunch wandering into town?

Or that Dale wouldn’t pull the trigger after MayorDad insisted “the boy doesn’t have that in him”?

This show is definitely my favorite comedy!  
[/QUOTE]

this was the season finale?, i never noticed, it was just as generic, predictable, and a waste of broadcast time as all the other episodes, completely yawnworthy, after 5 minutes watching it, i went back to torturing my Sims in TS2, watching the show in my peripheral vision, and didn’t miss anything critical

It’s transformation into a post-apocolyptic soap opera is complete, it’s not even fun to MST anymore

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/11 "2006-11-30T03:30:51Z")

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Oh and just in case anyone’s curious _why_ i watch it when i “hate” it, well, i dont really “hate” it, i see it as a freestyle MST3K style experiment, it’s a “so bad it’s good” kind of show

and it looks like we may finally get some Radioactive Zombies at long last 😉

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/12 "2006-11-30T03:54:11Z")

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From the linked article:

“Thus far, the series has grabbed viewers by telling a realistic version of fictional events. A nuclear explosion in Denver was followed by nuclear rain, blackouts, radiation sickness, the launch of a nuclear counterstrike, hoarding and stealing of food, a rising up of vigilantes, a run-in with a rogue paramilitary group, the arrival of questionable “government” outsiders and an airdrop of food and supplies, apparently from China.”

I agree, these events could happen in real life, but the way they’ve been dealt with on Jericho is anything but “realistic”.

Viewers are “grabbed”? Okay, but if the comments here and at TWOP are an indication, like **MacTech** said, many are watching for the MST3K possibilities.

Ulrich also talked about “character development” in the article. It is to laugh.

I picked the wrong guy as Roger. I had my hopes set on the dark-haired guy with glasses – he looked interesting. Roger looks like a beefier version of Eric.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/13 "2006-11-30T04:10:39Z")

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[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
Viewers are “grabbed”? Okay, but if the comments here and at TWOP are an indication, like **MacTech** said, many are watching for the MST3K possibilities.

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Doubtful. I don’t think this message board is very representative of the real world.

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**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/14 "2006-11-30T04:28:08Z")

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A good episode. A couple of things were very predictable such as Roger coming back or the dad running and getting caught but it was still a good episode.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/15 "2006-11-30T04:40:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
Or that Roger wouldn’t be amongst that bunch wandering into town?  
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I have to admit I did not predict this. I thought surely the writers wouldn’t do something that ham-handed. I was wrong. :smack: The drama in the jail cell wasn’t too bad, though.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/16 "2006-11-30T04:41:39Z")

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Forgive me, I missed the pilot. WTH is Roger?

Who are the guys who can use satellite resources after the USA has been nuked to keep track of Hawkins? If they can photograph him with a satellite, why do they need him to give his location?

And good for Dale.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/17 "2006-11-30T04:57:16Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
Forgive me, I missed the pilot. WTH is Roger?

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Roger is Emily’s fiance. He was on a flight to Denver when the bombs dropped. He was feared dead, but Jake rigged up something from a crashed plane and heard on the radio that Roger’s flight had been diverted. (I think to Des Moines, which means he walked a long way.)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/18 "2006-11-30T13:24:20Z")

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[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
Jake rigged up something from a crashed plane and heard on the radio that Roger’s flight had been diverted. (I think to Des Moines,  
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Ah yes, those connecting fights are hell!

Thanks. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/19 "2006-11-30T13:43:51Z")

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Well, I was making a doll while it was on, so I didn’t pay as much attention as I normally do.

As always, there were glimmers of interesting themes. I liked how Jonah, having created an anarchic band of thugs, gets overthrown and then has nowhere to go. If they had fleshed it out more, it could have been a nice comment on the costs and benefits of the two major post-apocalyptic options: band together or every man for himself.

I liked that Dale popped Mitchell, though you have to wonder what kind of moron, having very first-hand knowledge of the dangers of being the top thug, blithely hangs out alone in the dark, apparently unarmed.

It was nice to finally see Gray doing something bad. Practically every episode has featured him making rather sensible arguments, while the audience is clearly meant to revile him as a power-hungry jackass whose ideas would lead to obvious disaster. He may have been somewhat keen on being mayor, but generally his suggestions were perfectly reasonable. Nevertheless, it was a little jarring to see Mayor Suckerpunch step up as the champion of civil rights.

Anyway, where the hell has Heather been, the spa? I guess if Jake’s not interested in her, she has no purpose.

Regardless, I view this episode as a major winner, if only because obnoxious Gracie is dead. Yay!

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**Author:** ![Ferd\_Burfel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@Ferd\_Burfel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferd_Burfel)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jericho-fall-finale-11-29/382224/20 "2006-11-30T15:04:16Z")

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I’ve enjoyed the show since the beginning, despite the constant jarring of my willing suspension of disbelief. I enjoy Prison Break in the same way. In the smorgasbord of TV fare, these shows aren’t hearty stews. But I can still find room for a thin, tasty broth as well.

This week’s jolt back to reality was the business with Jonah. Even if the new mayor was willing to be convinced that Jonah and Dale were telling the truth, would he have released a viable suspect without arresting and questioning Mitch first? Shouldn’t he have tried to verify the story?

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