# Jerry Seinfeld was a troll...who else? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 3, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194 "2006-08-03T14:57:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alma)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/21 "2006-08-03T19:34:20Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] Klaus on _Family Guy_: “Why did you set me up like that?” “I’m German. It’s what we do.” [/QUOTE] I think that’s _American Dad_. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/22 "2006-08-03T19:55:33Z")
Gregory Anton in [Gaslight](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036855/), but it’s more for profit then amusement. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/23 "2006-08-03T21:20:29Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] How about an actual TROLL? Or, Loki. [/QUOTE] Oh, if we’re going mythological, then Eris wins. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/24 "2006-08-03T21:39:55Z")
Woody Woodpecker (with appropriate passage from “Seinfeld”): > [@](#): > > GEORGE: These are the balloons? Big deal, all I see is Woody Woodpecker. > > KRAMER: You got a problem with Woody Woodpecker? > > GEORGE: Yeah, what is he? Some sort of an instigator? > > KRAMER: That’s right. He’s a troublemaker. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/25 "2006-08-03T21:44:48Z")
Moe Syzlack–he even played one in the fairy tale telling of “Billy Goats Gruff.” ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/26 "2006-08-04T00:58:32Z")
[QUOTE=Iggins] Bugs Bunny [/QUOTE] Yes of course Bugs \*‘aint I a stinker’ \* Bunny is a classic. Also Foghorn Leghorn. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/27 "2006-08-04T00:59:36Z")
Hawkeye and Trapper from Mash. ---
**Author:** ![hawksgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ed655f/32.png) [@hawksgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawksgirl)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/28 "2006-08-04T01:08:24Z")
[QUOTE=Imasquare] Hawkeye and Trapper from Mash. [/QUOTE] Stole mine. _shakes fist_ ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/29 "2006-08-04T01:31:56Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] This reminded me of the character Stephen Hyde from That 70s Show, who I think may also qualify, though I can’t think of specific examples. [/QUOTE] Second the nomination. As an example, in the episode when they’re traveling to “Vanstock”, Jackie and Laurie are both sitting up front with Kelso, who is driving. Kelso is not so secretly banging both gals, but Jackie is his “girlfriend” and doesn’t know about the side action. Hyde sticks his head up, and steers the conversation in ways that make Kelso squirm, even leading the girls in singing the theme from “Three’s Company”… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/30 "2006-08-04T01:34:07Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] I think Bob Kelso on Scrubs loves putting people in situations they hate. [/QUOTE] Nah, he’s more of a power-mad moderator. The janitor, however, it pure troll. He makes accusations that he does not personally believe to be true, merely to annoy other people. > [@mack](#): > > Walter, from The Big Lebowski. Nah, he wasn’t a troll, he was a one-trick pony with an inability to follow forum rules. When he pulled the gun on Smokey, he wasn’t doing it just to fuck with the guy, he really believed that firearms were a reasonable solution to bowling disagreements. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/31 "2006-08-04T02:08:09Z")
My best Jerry Seinfeld example has to be when he informs Elaine that Tolstoy’s original title to War and Peace was actually War, what is it Good For? Of course, Elaine believes him and much hilarity ensues. ---
**Author:** ![Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirror_Image_egamI_rorriM)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/32 "2006-08-04T02:31:46Z")
Bender from Futurama. He’s always stirring up trouble. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/33 "2006-08-04T02:37:54Z")
Abby on **Dawson’s Creek** ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/34 "2006-08-04T02:59:49Z")
[QUOTE=Alma] I think that’s _American Dad_. [/QUOTE] Yeah, because AD & FG aren’t the same show. :rolleyes: Not that I don’t like both. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/35 "2006-08-04T03:05:08Z")
I can’t completely agree with Bunny, Pierce, or Mackintyre, because each of them had a conscience. (Remember the Looney Tune when Bugs got incensed at the Eskimo hunter who was going to kill the defenseless and utterly out of place penguin?) A true troll will vex anyone for the fun of it; those three will vex in self-defense, defense of others, or in the pursuit of the greater good (i.e., anything that pisses off Frank Burns or Elmer Fudd is probably the right thing to do anyway, even if it’s not obviously so.) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/36 "2006-08-04T03:12:15Z")
Bud Bundy ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/37 "2006-08-04T03:29:43Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] I can’t completely agree with Bunny, Pierce, or Mackintyre, because each of them had a conscience. [/QUOTE] In that case, I would wager Bugs was a troll under certain writers and not others, just as the Marxes always harnessed their talents to help nice young couples after they left Paramount. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/38 "2006-08-04T03:45:07Z")
**Steve MB** , my first thought was Iago from “Othello,” too. He was a troll’s troll, that one. Chandler on “Friends” sometimes was a troll to his otherwise-good buddy Joey Tribbiani. My favorite was when Joey was trying to come up with a better stage name and Chandler, with a straight face, suggested “Joey Stalin.” Joey loved it, tried it out at an audition and came back dejected, saying something like, “Turns out there was some nasty Russian dictator guy who had that name.” Chandler professed to be shocked, shocked at the coincidence…! ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/39 "2006-08-04T03:57:07Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] Yeah, because AD & FG aren’t the same show. :rolleyes: Not that I don’t like both. [/QUOTE] I don’t find them similar at all, aside from the animation and actors. Seriously – I think they’re very different, right down the line from ‘absurdist’ to ‘topical’. Maybe we should have another thread on this, though. 🙂 I’m not sure if a Trickster is the same as a “troll”. A trickster, like Loki, Eris, and Bugs Bunny, acts on a sort of divine mandate; sewing trouble is what they are, not so much what they sometimes do, if this makes sense. If there’s an ideology or dogma behind it, it’s not pure trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194/40 "2006-08-04T04:18:33Z")
Iago is doing it for revenge, though, not to amuse himself or because it’s what he does. Is that different? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerry-seinfeld-was-a-troll-who-else/367194.md?page=3)