# JerseyDiamond, you feckless shrew **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197 "2003-04-03T14:33:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/181 "2003-04-04T02:45:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*Yes it is in poor taste. This entire thread is in poor taste. I’m just waiting now for you to post something to the effect of “AHA! You cursed and said mean things back to us after we called your wife a cunt! You’re no Christian! We provoked your anger and you responded with it!” > > Hypocrites. Hey Ace, I think they’re using your _gobear_ script again. \*\* I don’t care about what you said in response to a Pitting. What you and your wife said about **Eve** was NOT something that you should have repeated. If you thought this, truly, well, that’s one thing. Not very nice, but hey-it happens. However, to then say so to her FACE (so to speak), and then act bewildered as to why it hurt? How would you like it if you, say, had large acne scars all over your face. And it was so obvious. And we all knew about it. And then we post on the board, “Hey **Joe** , we all know you had bad acne-we saw you at the Dopefest-it was so obvious you are a HUGE pizza-face! But hey-nothing PERSONAL!” It’s like the time **Kirkland** told **His4ever** that she deserved to be beaten and raped. Vile swear words are one thing and yeah, they’re pretty nasty. But you hit below the belt-you made it personal. You hit someone in a really sensitive spot, and just poured salt all over it. As for why I went all over you like a rabid doberman, it’s because I consider **Eve** a friend here, and when people say hurtful things about my friends, I don’t put up with it. You remind me of this girl I knew in high school, who sat by me in our freshman art class. She’d sit there and say nasty things about my best friend-“She’s so weird. Is she a lesbo? I think she’s retarded. I heard she needed to be in an institution!” And then, when I’d read her the riot act, she was astonished. Not faking it, but really clueless as to why it upset me. Same thing here. You reap what you sow. I thought they were supposed to know us by our LOVE **Joe**. You are known by your hate. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/182 "2003-04-04T02:50:14Z")
Loving Jesus means never having to say you’re sorry for calling someone a cocksucking, abnormal idiot who can’t even tell the difference between X and Y chromosomes while hanging out with polygamist, pedophiliac perverts and idol-worshiping Papists. What? How _dare_ you take offense! I’m only telling you the truth! Because I love you, you fucking piece of shit abominations unto the Lord, Amen! And once again, I owe **gobear** the beverage of his choice should I ever make it to D.C. or he ever make it to Texas. Well done, sir! ---
**Author:** ![Rocza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce7236/32.png) [@Rocza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocza)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/183 "2003-04-04T02:53:55Z")
**Joe\_Cool** , I don’t know, nor do I particularly care, about any history you may have had with any other posters in this thread. All I have to say is that in _this_ thread, you’ve made some incredibly hurtful remarks to **Eve**. And I think you do owe her a very profuse, sincere apology. I don’t know if there is history between you and **Eve** , but even if there was history, it would only provide the smallest of mitigating circumstances for what you said. If there was no history, your words were simply inexcusable. Whatever happened, or didn’t happen, between you, **gobear** and others in the past are irrelevant because they aren’t involved. This isn’t even between you and **Eve** , its really about you. And whether you have the courage to be an adult and accept the consequences of your actions and admit that you were wrong here. And you have to show that contrition. \*\*Jersey\_Diamond, \*\* Sorry but your comment about being “truthful” doesn’t quite cut it either. If your choice was between being honesty and dishonesty, then I would wholeheartedly support your statements. However your choice was between saying something which causes pain to another human being and refraining from saying that. In this context, honesty is the greater sin and, indeed, tries to masquerade as a virtue. It is not. There is no virtue in telling someone that their baby is the ugliest thing that you ever saw or telling a recent widow(er) that their spouse was a terrible human being and you were glad that they were dead. All these things might be the truth but when faced with a choice between causing pain _for no reason_ and not causing pain, the better choice would be to not cause pain. The _polite_ thing to have done was to have said nothing. I’m additionally surprised that neither you nor your husband realize this since you two claim that you’ll are being needlessly insulted and you don’t seem to like that. Do unto others and all that. My $0.02 Rocza ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/184 "2003-04-04T03:06:12Z")
I know that Eve has too much sense to keep reading this drivel, but I just want it on record that she is my goddamn womanly role model for how to live life as a lady. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/185 "2003-04-04T03:11:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JerseyDiamond \* > \*\*see! > > they get excited easily 😃 > like puppies \*\* Sure, I can be easily amused. In this case it was predicted you would make a fool of yourself, and examples were given as to how you would go about it. Then, with all the grace of a masturbating chimp, you doggedly proceeded to fulfill the prophecy. I find that humorous, don’t you? I know, I know, you are having the “now that I’ve really stepped in it, I can’t back down and might as well track it through the house” delirium tremens. Go ahead and rail away. At least Ace thinks you’re Aces. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/186 "2003-04-04T03:16:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by JerseyDiamond > see! > > they get excited easily > like puppies If I remember correctly, it was Ace doing the doggy leg humpin’ thing. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/187 "2003-04-04T03:16:53Z")
It’s amazing how a couple of God loving Jesus praising people can generate so much vitriol. Says something about what’s really in their hearts. Jesus weeps. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/188 "2003-04-04T03:18:50Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by His4Ever:_ > \*\*I wouldn’t be surprised if every conservative, Bible believing Christian that comes to the board gets their own pit thread. \*\* Woot! I’m in! I’m in the clique! The Conservative Christian Clique! Yay! ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/189 "2003-04-04T03:22:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*gobear, where the asterisks sit, I meant to write “It must be terrible living with so much hate inside.” Please note the change. \*\* It must be truly terrible living with so much hate and hypocrisy inside of you and your wife. Of course, she seems more like the parrot of your vile spewings than an entity unto herself, but that’s a Promisekeeper for you. Oh. And we note there is no change in you. None at all. (Now… he will try to turn this on me and my “popularity” in 5… 4… 3… 2…) ---
**Author:** ![Sqube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Sqube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sqube)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/190 "2003-04-04T03:22:47Z")
Hmm… **Joe\_Cool** and **JerseyDiamond** , another person who’s never interacted with either of you before weighing in over here. **Joe** , whatever may have passed between you and **gobear** is just that. Between you and him/her (haven’t been around long enough to know who’s which yet). If you were to erase this entire thread and replace it with “ **Joe\_Cool** and **JerseyDiamond** , you hurt someone’s feelings unnecessarily and you should apologize”, what would you do? I’m sincerely curious. I hope you would apologize. Now, since you clothe yourselves with the mantle of Christianity, practice what you preach. You’ve been slapped. Why are you slapping back? They’ve taken your jacket. Give them your shirt. They want an apology? All you would have had to do was apologize to **Eve**. And then you could come back in here and laugh at how foolish all this vitriol is. Feel free to make the argument that you’re being unfairly persecuted, and you have every right to respond in kind. But then keep in mind that Jesus, whom you claim to worship and love, took persecution greater than you could ever imagine. Without a word against his tormentors. But of course, from what I’ve seen here, I would have to wonder how sincere an apology you gave would be. And an insincere apology is just as bad, if not worse, than no apology at all. Meditate on that for a second, or a year. Whichever makes you feel best. But I just think this is a whole concept you should keep in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/191 "2003-04-04T03:27:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by His4ever \* > \*\*Join the club, **JerseyDiamond.** Of course, I can’t say for sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if every conservative, Bible believing Christian that comes to the board gets their own pit thread. After all, how dare we disagree with the majority! You realize, that giving your honest opinion and disagreeing with people here is considered a hateful attack, don’t you? :smack: \*\* I see. So it’s just peachy to say obscenely hateful things if they’re under the guise of “honest opinions”? So you wouldn’t mind if I said (hypothetically, of course) “I am of the opinion, H4E, that you are such evil, loathesome bitch that I believe you hang around alleys rubbing raw steaks on your privates in order to lure stray dogs in with you, since you know that’s the only way another living being will willingly touch you.” Huh. And here I would have thought that to be a vile comment, cruder, perhaps, than what Jersey spewed at **Eve** but similar in degree of meanness and thus, something that a decent person wouldn’t post… I’m glad you were around to tell me different. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/192 "2003-04-04T03:29:16Z")
Holy shit. How is it possible that this asshats haven’t been banned for hate-speach? If I was spewing this sort of crap about Christians, I would be out of here. It’s appalling. **JD, JC** you are both small, ugly-minded trolls. It’s horrifing to think that you two might breed and spread your hatred to innocent children. Get help. Really. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/193 "2003-04-04T03:33:02Z")
**alice** , Jersey has a child. If you’re not doing anything tonight, you might want to educate yourself on how they plan to raise said child. I’m not going to insult the hamsters by searching for the threads, but there are some really interesting things to learn about them in the applicable threads. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/194 "2003-04-04T03:39:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > \*\*It’s amazing how a couple of God loving Jesus praising people can generate so much vitriol. > > Says something about what’s really in their hearts. > > Jesus weeps. \*\* Well, if their worldview is correct, there will be an accounting > [@](#): > > \*1 Corinthians, Chapter 13 \* > > 13:1 > Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. > 13:2 > And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. > 13:3 > And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing and > [@](#): > > _Matthew 23:27-28_ > Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. > > Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity **Joe** and **JD** are the sort of Christian exemplified by the piously inhumane Miss Clack in Wilkie Collins’s classic suspense novel, [The Moonstone](http://www.litrix.com/mstone1/mston028.htm): > [@](#): > > Once self-supported by conscience, once embarked on a career of manifest usefulness, the true Christian never yields. Neither public nor private influences produce the slightest effect on us, when we have once got our mission. Taxation may be the consequence of a mission; riots may be the consequence of a mission; wars may be the consequence of a mission: we go on with our work, irrespective of every human consideration which moves the world outside us. **We are above reason; we are beyond ridicule; we see with nobody’s eyes, we hear with nobody’s ears, we feel with nobody’s hearts, but our own. Glorious, glorious privilege! And how is it earned? Ah, my friends, you may spare yourselves the useless inquiry! We are the only people who can earn it–for we are the only people who are always right.** ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/195 "2003-04-04T03:54:23Z")
I just had to come back to say _thank you_ to those of you who have defended me and said such lovely things about me in this thread. You guys are the _best._ ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/196 "2003-04-04T03:56:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*Anyway, she shouldn’t feel bad. Cosmetic surgery performed 24 years ago can’t possibly be held to the same standards of quality we hold today. \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally posted by gobear > > That’s right, Joe, JD started this. Your wife started this whole mess by hitting Eve in an incredibly tender area. > > Pssst… gobear? She had that part removed. > \*\* Oh, Joe. Joe, without insulting you, Jersey, your life or religion, or personal value systems, I just have to say that these two things you’ve said are the absolute end. I don’t know if you care, but this is enough for me. Don’t look for me sniping at you now or in the future, or insulting you behind your back in IRC or LiveJournals, but we’re at an ending here. I cannot be convinced of your wanting to ever see things differently, and these things you’ve said here are just plain below the belt. You can tell me I sound preachy and judgemental, and that’s a fair cop, I suppose. You have plenty of people after you in here, and will for some time to come, apparently, so you don’t need to hear shit from me. I thought of a few more words that were meant to be wistful and regretful, but they sound like cheap dimestore crap that no one believes anymore anyhow except me. - In an meaningless sidebar no one will really care about, I’ve seen several pictures of Eve, and I think she’s a very fine-looking woman - she even has the proper bone structure of her face to give her a very soft look, too. Maybe it’s just the diabetic retinopathy steadily taking my vision from me like a fucking demonic Pac-Man, but I certainly never thought she was ever anything else but _her_ from looking at the pictures. I think she would look best in a hat of some sort, sorta like a Jackie Kennedy number, but oh well, you can’t have it all. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/197 "2003-04-04T03:56:16Z")
You know, I think after this, even **Polycarp** would be hard-pressed to ever defend these two again. Over at the Pizza Parlor, **Joe** proceeded to lecture me on why Catholicism is false. (FWIW, I am lapsed, non-practicing, and have a more Unitarian-Universalist outlook). And then he turns around and cloaks himself as a Christian, while spewing this vile garbage. He’s hateful. Hateful, hateful, hateful. ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/198 "2003-04-04T03:57:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > \*\*Woot! I’m in! I’m in the clique! The Conservative Christian Clique! Yay! \*\* ME TOO!!! [sub] do we get donuts?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/199 "2003-04-04T03:58:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > \*\*I just had to come back to say _thank you_ to those of you who have defended me and said such lovely things about me in this thread. > > You guys are the _best._ \*\* But of COURSE! -NOW do you see why I sometimes prefer my cats to people? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/200 "2003-04-04T04:12:11Z")
My first dream about a doper was a semi-erotic one about Eve. And boy was she stunning. I sorta watched her walk by (not unlike how I imagine her walk now) and said “goddamn she’s hot. I’d do her if she gave me the time of day.” I usually don’t give two shits, in my daydreams/nightmares (started in my nightmares when I was being sexually assaulted, just FTR), whether or not someone consents. But that was _Eve_. Eve’s the kind of lady you want to approve of you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197.md?page=11)