# JerseyDiamond, you feckless shrew

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 3, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197 "2003-04-03T14:33:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/61 "2003-04-03T19:37:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by istara \*  
> \*\*whereas all **JC** did was come in guns blazing and upset everyone. \*\*

Ahhh…reminds me a lot of a young Jesus Christ…

oh no wait.

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**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/62 "2003-04-03T19:37:58Z")

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:: stepping with fear and trepidation into this thread ::

You know, while I don’t often agree with **JC** or **JD** , in this case, I don’t think she intended to do anything malicious. In fact, I had to read the GD thread a couple of times before I figured out why her post was even taken as tactless and hurtful, although I think I understand it now.

I do see that it’s hurtful to a MtF transsexual to let her know that you think she looks “mannish” in some way, if your honest opinion has not been solicited. But that’s less clear when the very topic of transsexuality is on the table, and the person has been discussing her gender identity without apparent embarrassment. Eve compared the comment to comments on someone’s weight, but let’s extend that a little. Suppose people were complaining about the inconveniences of being fat, and I chimed in to bitch about how my pants always wear out first in the inner thighs (true), and then someone said, “yeah, I’ve noticed that you’ve been getting a little chunky lately.” It would be tactless and insulting, but not nearly as much as if it wasn’t in the context of that conversation. I could easily see how someone could innocently make such a remark without thinking about how it would be insulting.

The real test, IMO, is the reaction when offense is actually taken. I wish that **JD** would at least make some response to **Eve** indicating that she didn’t mean to be offensive. But I can see being leery of that, too, when everyone is ready to jump down her throat again.

(And **Eve** , I’ve never met you in person, but I would never have guessed that you were transgendered based on your writing. Whatever bits you have now or used to have, you’re undeniably a lady).

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**Author:** ![JerseyDiamond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JerseyDiamond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyDiamond)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/63 "2003-04-03T19:40:53Z")

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Vent away…

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/64 "2003-04-03T19:52:28Z")

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…and there goes Jersey Diamond…always taking the high road…

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/65 "2003-04-03T20:05:06Z")

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**JD** , can you just ackowledge that you have said hurtful things, whether you meant to or not, and apologize **out of respect for your fellow posters**? Or keep your righteous mouth shut about certain topics **out of respect for your fellow posters**?

How fucking hard can that be?

Oh, and I’d make a comment about **Ace** the unbanned hero swooping in to defend someone, when we all know he’s really just attacking for the joy of attacking, but I wouldn’t want to come across as a “predictable hypocrite.” :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/66 "2003-04-03T20:06:42Z")

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Not cool Joe.  
And I think you’ll find Jersey is more Cubic Zircona.  
Eve, you’re a classy lady, i hope the tea helped.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/67 "2003-04-03T20:07:42Z")

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Ace, what say you and Jersey get a room for your virtual cock ‘n’ clit stroking of each other and leave us to our message board?

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/68 "2003-04-03T20:09:33Z")

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Ewwwwww lookie! Ace is humping J\_D’s leg. Now that’s just nasty.

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**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/69 "2003-04-03T20:27:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*Ace, what say you and Jersey get a room for your virtual cock ‘n’ clit stroking of each other and leave us to our message board? \*\*

So, go away if you don’t agree with us? Please.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/70 "2003-04-03T20:32:15Z")

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No, go away if you’re just going to sit around a thread, jacking off all over yourself about how great you are for not responding to us evil ones, while at the same time bumping the thread to the top of the page every time you do.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/71 "2003-04-03T21:04:31Z")

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> Oh, and I’d make a comment about **Ace** the unbanned hero swooping in to defend someone, when we all know he’s really just attacking for the joy of attacking, but I wouldn’t want to come across as a “predictable hypocrite.” :rolleyes:

:smack: yet you captured it wonderfully with your contradictory, hypocritical statement – good show!

[we now pause 10 seconds for Ace to finish rolling around the floor, laughing his ass off.]  
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I’d like to also welcome **Diane** and the disliked posters of H.S. 105, let’s give them a big hand! Wow, I sure hope you guys get some good Clique Credit™ for all that rock-throwing!

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/72 "2003-04-03T21:08:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> Be nice or we’ll gratuitously insult you further!

Insults are not gratuitous when the person being insulted has provoked the response due to their rude, tacky, and thoughtlessly insulting behavior, you useless piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/73 "2003-04-03T21:10:00Z")

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It’s not that she’s not allowed to disagree (even though she’s wrong and refuses to see any other viewpoint). It’s her utterly thoughtless way of steamrolling over people’s feelings and when called on it, doesn’t even bother to apologize, or admit she hurt someone, and sits back and laughs about it.

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**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/74 "2003-04-03T21:15:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> \*\*Wow, I sure hope you guys get some good Clique Credit™ for all that rock-throwing! \*\*

Yeah, it’s all a conspiracy. It couldn’t possibly be that you’re an asshole.

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/75 "2003-04-03T21:18:16Z")

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Now, Kalhoun, you know that apologizing for causing hurt makes the Baby Jesus cry.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/76 "2003-04-03T21:20:21Z")

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Can you buy anything with Clique Credit™?

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/77 "2003-04-03T21:22:51Z")

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So explain it to me, **ace**  
A. **JD** posts an incredibly cruel comment to **Eve** and that’s OK.

B. Other posters react to said comment, but that’s not OK.

So please explain why the gratuitous cruelty to **Eve** should pass unnoticed and unretaliated?

I’d also like a clarification of this Clique you speak of. Since I’ve been on the receiving end of many a dogpile, I genuinely don’t think I’m part of any “cool kid” subset of The SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/78 "2003-04-03T21:24:00Z")

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Can I be in The Clique[symbol]ä[/symbol]?

Really stop turning me down.

Damn The Clique[symbol]ä[/symbol]

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/79 "2003-04-03T21:24:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> :smack: yet you captured it wonderfully with your contradictory, hypocritical statement – good show!
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> [we now pause 10 seconds for Ace to finish rolling around the floor, laughing his ass off.]  
> .  
> .  
> [/pause]

I’m glad you were able to recognize the subtle irony, you mental giant.

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/80 "2003-04-03T21:25:53Z")

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Prior to **Jersey** , who was the last Christian martyr?

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