# JerseyDiamond, you feckless shrew **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197 "2003-04-03T14:33:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/81 "2003-04-03T21:27:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Robb \* > \*\*Prior to **Jersey** , who was the last Christian martyr? \*\* **His4ever**. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/82 "2003-04-03T21:27:36Z")
Her loser husband. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/83 "2003-04-03T21:28:45Z")
There is no possible peaceful resolution to this thread. Even my thread-killing powers won’t work here. Unfortunately, the originators of this trouble apparently cannot see beyond their indoctrination that they are being cruel with their words, regardless of their intentions, and will not back off from their position. Other posters see a way to pour fuel on the proverbial fire, and keep the war going. I think everyone should take diplomacy classes (and I don’t mean the game)- I mean everybody; maybe the world would not be so ready to go to war. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/84 "2003-04-03T21:31:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > \*\*:smack: yet you captured it wonderfully with your contradictory, hypocritical statement – good show! > > [we now pause 10 seconds for Ace to finish rolling around the floor, laughing his ass off.] > . > . > [/pause] > > I’d like to also welcome **Diane** and the disliked posters of H.S. 105, let’s give them a big hand! Wow, I sure hope you guys get some good Clique Credit™ for all that rock-throwing! \*\* Wow-- it’s the human cliche machine. Smiley abuse. Check. “laughing his ass off” Check. Self-congratuatory posting style. Check. Whiny complaints about the eviiiiiiiil eviiiiiil Clique. Check. Intentionally ironic posts. Check. Bonus points for the rock throwing complaint-- now that’s actually funny. Too bad we are laughing _at_ you, not with _you_. Attempts at victimization (at the hands of the evil Clique conspiracy against morons like him). Check. Well according to this list-- its official, you’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/85 "2003-04-03T21:33:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Robb \* > \*\*Prior to **Jersey** , who was the last Christian martyr? \*\* Before anyone actually answers this seriously, I’d like a clarification on how Jersey is: a) a Christian and b) a martyr. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/86 "2003-04-03T21:33:12Z")
But if any of you could put in a word for me I’d love to be a SDMB Clique member. The SDMB Clique opens doors. I mean, I was…I was a bit on edge just now, but if I were a SDMB Clique member I’d sit at the back and not get in anyone’s way. I’ve got a second-hand apron. ---
**Author:** ![JerseyDiamond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JerseyDiamond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyDiamond)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/87 "2003-04-03T21:36:13Z")
This is amazing. There are so many people who have posted on _my pit thread_ 😃 that I have never even heard of, or even seen any of their posts before; people with mounds of posts. LOL@ACE ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/88 "2003-04-03T21:39:30Z")
I nearly got in at Hendon. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/89 "2003-04-03T21:39:30Z")
gobear, I think for full indoctrination you have to be mentioned as being in the Clique by someone complaining about the Clique. Also, I think your name has to be mentioned without you posting in that thread, but I’m not sure it’s a qualification. I’d sponsor you if I were a member, but sadly, the only time my name gets mentioned is accidentally in junk food threads. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/90 "2003-04-03T21:42:23Z")
I want to be a clique member too. How does one apply? Are there dues? How many times per month do they meet? Will there be potluck luncheons and can I bring salad? Does everyone get an apron or just gobear? Is there a secret handshake and does it involve a high-five? But most importantly, how do you spend Clique Credit™ and do you have to purchase authorized clique merchandise or can I just spend it at the mall? ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/91 "2003-04-03T21:42:55Z")
> [@](#): > > that I have never even heard of Considering your kind of fame, I’m quite pleased with obscurity. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/92 "2003-04-03T21:48:24Z")
God, everyone lets **gobear** get away with such evil shit and crappy posts, just because he’s in the you-know-what starts-with-a-C… (did that work? are you in??) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/93 "2003-04-03T21:49:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JerseyDiamond \* > \*\*This is amazing. There are so many people who have posted on _my pit thread_ 😃 that I have never even heard of, or even seen any of their posts before; people with mounds of posts. > > \*\* And yet you don’t get the hint. All these people Pitting you- what could it mean? Either you fucked up royally and its time for the Mea Culpa, or you somehow were in the right with that set of comments and all these unrelated posters, many who you haven’t seen before, are all somehow conspiring against you to some unknown end. The choices appear to be mutually exclusive now don’t they? Which could it be? **A.** The Evil Clique held a secret meeting over our personal Intranet and designated you “Shitbird of the Day”. Or **B.** People are actually upset about what you posted and how. Honestly, with a straight face do you think it’s **A.**? I am curious. BTW- it’s _never_ a good sign when Ace is your only supporter, you may want you take a hard look at **B.** Also, the faux cutsey response thing ain’t working- you may want to work on that a bit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/94 "2003-04-03T21:51:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > So explain it to me, **ace** First off, the person offended, **Eve** , personally, needs to make the case of why a pit thread is necessary; perhaps an e-mail would’ve sufficed. Perhaps a cup of chamomille was all that was needed. Who knows? Someone else stepping in to address an “incredibly cruel” offense to SOMEBODY ELSE is a reprehensible rhetorical tactic, and frequent one where there are minority issues addressed. Some call it mau-mauing. The case of being needlessly insulted needs to be strong, otherwise it comes off as hypersenitivity, and borders on silencing the debate, especially if it occurs in GD and you provide no better way to state the offending phrase – and when asked how to phrase it, the only advice is “keep your mouth shut!” In making the case, you need to not use worse insults (or ignore worse actors), otherwise you are appear fatally hypocritical and agenda-driven. If all three happen, the thread is as this one is: laughable. And you knew all this, my old nemesis, so cease wasting my time. Oh, by the way, I thought your “thinking of the J’s makes me think of hungry lions,” statement was the only notable offense so far. I wonder if you could clarify: were you perhaps thinking of how they could instead be eating your two Christian debate opponents? > [@](#): > > I’d also like a clarification of this Clique you speak of. Since I’ve been on the receiving end of many a dogpile, I genuinely don’t think I’m part of any “cool kid” subset of The SDMB. I quite agree. Read that paragraph again – it says none are quite so quick to throw rocks as those who’ve received them. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/95 "2003-04-03T22:02:45Z")
> [@](#): > > First off, the person offended, Eve, personally, needs to make the case . . . . So I am guessing that you aren’t just the owner of the Clique That Decides What is and What is Not Allowed™, but that you’re a client too. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/96 "2003-04-03T22:12:58Z")
Ace said, “First off, the person offended, Eve, personally, needs to make the case of why a pit thread is necessary; perhaps an e-mail would’ve sufficed. Perhaps a cup of chamomille was all that was needed. Who knows?” She did. The fact that she didn’t start the pit thread doesn’t mean she wasn’t hurt. It came through loud and clear to everyone that she was hurt. …and then… “Someone else stepping in to address an “incredibly cruel” offense to SOMEBODY ELSE is a reprehensible rhetorical tactic, and frequent one where there are minority issues addressed. Some call it mau-mauing.” And you’ve never come to anyone’s defense before? Please re-read your first post in this thread.:rolleyes: Would you rather Eve jump on the martyr bandwagon? I don’t think there’s any room left after the Sphincter Twins hopped on. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/97 "2003-04-03T22:14:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > And yet you don’t get the hint. All these people Pitting you- what could it mean? Either you fucked up royally and its time for the Mea Culpa, or you somehow were in the right with that set of comments and all these unrelated posters, many who you haven’t seen before, are all somehow conspiring against you to some unknown end. Yes, yes, no need to make a case or anything – blow enough smoke and there’ll be fire, I’m sure. Another rock, sir? ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/98 "2003-04-03T22:17:00Z")
Can I be in the Clique as well? I have unique skills that would be invaluable to the Clique, I’m sure. Really. I do. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/99 "2003-04-03T22:19:46Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **The Ace of Swords** _ > > Someone else stepping in to address an “incredibly cruel” offense to SOMEBODY ELSE is a reprehensible rhetorical tactic, and frequent one where there are minority issues addressed. Really? So it’s not my place to call someone out for making denigrating remarks about women, blacks, Asians, Latinos, the handicapped, or anyone other than gay white American men (or, perhaps more specifically, anyone other than myself, personally)? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/100 "2003-04-03T22:22:18Z")
That’s correct, Esprix. You will sit still and inhabit an island unto yourself. Tough shit if anyone else gets picked on. You fend for yourself or you die. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197.md?page=6)