# JerseyDiamond, you feckless shrew

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 3, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197 "2003-04-03T14:33:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/121 "2003-04-04T00:48:53Z")

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You can have it.

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**Author:** ![scablet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@scablet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scablet)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/122 "2003-04-04T00:52:02Z")

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:stares upwards from the shadow of His4Ever’s colossal, looming cross:

So _that’s_ why the telephone pole outside the SO’S apartment was down this morning.

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**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/123 "2003-04-04T00:59:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by scablet \*  
> \*\*:stares upwards from the shadow of His4Ever’s colossal, looming cross:
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> So _that’s_ why the telephone pole outside the SO’S apartment was down this morning. \*\*

About all I can do when I sit and read the majority of you guys’ posts is to sit and shake my head and laugh in bewilered hilarity. :rolleyes:  
You accuse other people of doing the same thing you do. You are the big bullies here, not **jersey or Joe** , but will you ever see that? I hightly doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/124 "2003-04-04T01:04:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*While **JD** ’s cruel comment to **Eve** was completely disgusting, it was not unexpected. C’mon, has she ever posted anything that was constructive or kind to anyone here? Her idea of posting is to say hateful things then to draw back in outraged hauteur when she is called on it, using the old “don’t blame me, I’m just quoting the Bible” dodge
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> …
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> See, the thing you have to understand about those two is that they are never wrong. Ever. They have the Light of Christ [sup]TM[/sup] to illuminate their posts, so that if their comments are perceived to be cruel, bigoted, or hateful, why then it’s the fault of _other_ posters that their comments cause such commotion.
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> I swear, every time those two show up in a thread, I think of all the poor lions going to bed hungry. \*\*

You know, gobear, I actually feel sorry for you. I really do think you’re an asshole, and quite childish. Do we really need to get back into the question of who is “never wrong” again? It seems to me that one of us still TO THIS DAY, refuses to admit that he was wrong (more likely made something up in order to cause a fight) on something. It also seems to me that to have YOU complaining about somebody being hateful is the absolute height of irony.

Oh, and by the way, your lion comment was totally uncalled for. How would you feel if, because I don’t like your views, I made a wistful comment about all the unused wooden stakes falling into disrepair, because you’re allowed to run free? Not very fucking good, I’ll wager. I don’t care if you like, well, anybody, to be honest, but that comment was shit and you know it. Are you man enough to step up and apologize? I seriously doubt it.

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> \*Originally posted by Kalhoun \*  
> \*\*Actually, Jersey, you ignorant prig, its for both you and your jerkoff husband.
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> I can’t believe you have the audacity to waltz in here like nothing happened. Dumb cunt. \*\*

You have no idea how much I wish I had you here in front of me. I’d absolutely love to share a cup of tea with you.

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> \*Originally posted by Robb \*  
> \*\*Does anyone have an idea why **JD** and **J\_C** like to cause so much trouble? One imagines, that if the two of them were paying attention, they would realize that their words are hateful, and maybe they’d be more careful in using them. Instead, they intrude into threads with their malformed opinions. They must know that they are going to cause trouble and another Pit thread. Is their desire to feel superior that strong? \*\*

I see. And the proper response to a direct question would be…what? To put on airs of how everything is great, and everybody is wonderful? Bullshit. This is a forum for exchange and discussion of ideas. But you seem to think it’s a big fat club for everybody to stand around patting each other on the backs for how enlightened and PC their views are.

How exactly did Jerseydiamond cause trouble? She answered a simple question with the truth. How is that cruel?

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> \*Originally posted by Kalhoun \*  
> **There were many shitty comments, but the one where Jersey said she could tell Eve was TG when she met her at a dopefest is the main one I’m referring to.**

I’m terribly sorry, but Eve looks like what she is: A man trying to look like a woman. If that’s too hard to deal with, it’s not my problem or my wife’s. Anyway, she shouldn’t feel bad. Cosmetic surgery performed 24 years ago can’t possibly be held to the same standards of quality we hold today.

And, of course, no thread would be complete without complete lies from Monty, now would it?

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*She actually called her an abomination?!?!?!?
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> Good grief.
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> How…er, how shall I put this…oh, yeah, I got it now. How Christian. \*\*

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**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/125 "2003-04-04T01:07:03Z")

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My vote is for a moderator or admin to delete this entire thread, based on the above.

Joe Cool speaks with the tongue of Satan, not God.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/126 "2003-04-04T01:09:03Z")

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By the way, I’m underwhelmed at the class you people display. Talk about losing the moral highground. Sheesh, if there was any moral highground in the first place, you’ve trampled it so far down, you’re standing in a valley.

Anthracite, you’re an island of reason in a sea of insanity. Yes, some of my and my wife’s comments are without tact. It’s not always intended that way, but sometimes it is. But except in very rare instances, no genuine offense is meant. Thanks for taking the time to add a thoughtful reply. I respectfully disagree with you on a number of issues, but I like you.

But Ace, you da man. If I was going to allow anybody to hump my wife’s leg, it would be you. 😃

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/127 "2003-04-04T01:12:25Z")

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> _Originally posted by me_  
> **You know, gobear, I actually feel sorry for you. \*\* I really do think you’re an asshole, and quite childish.**

gobear, where the asterisks sit, I meant to write “It must be terrible living with so much hate inside.” Please note the change.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/128 "2003-04-04T01:13:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*And, of course, no thread would be complete without complete lies from Monty, now would it? \*\*

Which he later corrected and apologized for. I think you owe an apology to him now.

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**Author:** ![scablet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@scablet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scablet)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/129 "2003-04-04T01:13:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by His4ever \*  
> \*\*About all I can do when I sit and read the majority of you guys’ posts is to sit and shake my head and laugh in bewilered hilarity. :rolleyes:  
> You accuse other people of doing the same thing you do. You are the big bullies here, not **jersey or Joe** , but will you ever see that? I hightly doubt it. \*\*

I certainly hope that’s a royal “you” and not addressed to me in particular. I have never played “bully” to **The J’s** (and would argue that nobody else really has, either, but I digress).

I was merely posting in awe of your ability to paint yourself so delicately as The Victim. Bra-fucking-vo, you poor persecuted Christian who has never said anything offensive, you.

And now I shall take a page out of your and **Ace** ’s playbook:

HA HA HA HA HA. I AM LAUGHING SO HARD RIGHT NOW AT YOUR IGNORANCE. SERIOUSLY. LAUGHING MY GODDAMN ASS OFF. ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF. AT YOUR IGNORANCE. HA HA HA. YOU SILLY GOOSE. LOOK AT ME AND MY INDIGNANT LAUGHTER THAT SOMEHOW REPLACES MAKING AN ACTUAL POINT. HA HA HA. [insert a million billion indignant rolleyes, each more indignant and uppity than the last]

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/130 "2003-04-04T01:20:25Z")

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> Oh, and by the way, your lion comment was totally uncalled for. How would you feel if, because I don’t like your views, I made a wistful comment about all the unused wooden stakes falling into disrepair, because you’re allowed to run free? Not very fucking good, I’ll wager. I don’t care if you like, well, anybody, to be honest, but that comment was shit and you know it. Are you man enough to step up and apologize? I seriously doubt it.

Oh, stop playing the martyr, you big nell! It was a snarky comment and you need to grow a thicker skin if you plan to continue your hate crusade here.

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> You know, gobear, I actually feel sorry for you. I really do think you’re an asshole, and quite childish. Do we really need to get back into the question of who is “never wrong” again? It seems to me that one of us still TO THIS DAY, refuses to admit that he was wrong (more likely made something up in order to cause a fight) on something.

Lost in the board crash. Other people saw it. Dead issue and wholly irrelevant to this one. Stop trying to obfuscate.

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> I’m terribly sorry, but Eve looks like what she is: A man trying to look like a woman. If that’s too hard to deal with, it’s not my problem or my wife’s. Anyway, she shouldn’t feel bad. Cosmetic surgery performed 24 years ago can’t possibly be held to the same standards of quality we hold today.

Well, I haven’t met **Eve** yet, but I HAVE seen her photo on the inside cover of her books. She does NOT look like a man, and trust me, sugar, I have met many, many more TG folks than you have, so I have a baseline to judge by.

But let’s say that **JD** is right and **Eve** looks like a linebacker in drag–by what right do you say something so fucking cruel? Have you two no fucking tact at all?

And no, this is not “a big fat club for everybody to stand around patting each other on the backs for how enlightened and PC their views are”–nobody would have any problem with the two of you if you behaved civilly and didn’t start this crap.

That’s right, **Joe** , **JD** started this. Your wife started this whole mess by hitting **Eve** in an incredibly tender area.

You want to know the truth, **Joe**? Here it is.

You and your wife are cruel, unfeeling people. You two are not Christian because Jesus would never be as hateful as you two are.

And **H4E** needs to stop trolling.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/131 "2003-04-04T01:22:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*gobear, where the asterisks sit, I meant to write “It must be terrible living with so much hate inside.” Please note the change. \*\*

You tell me. I don’t have hate except when provoked by the hateful.

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**Author:** ![scablet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@scablet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scablet)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/132 "2003-04-04T01:23:10Z")

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> I’m terribly sorry, but Eve looks like what she is: A man trying to look like a woman. If that’s too hard to deal with, it’s not my problem or my wife’s. Anyway, she shouldn’t feel bad. Cosmetic surgery performed 24 years ago can’t possibly be held to the same standards of quality we hold today.

…oh my God.

Fuck you.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/133 "2003-04-04T01:26:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eutychus \*  
> \*\*Which he later corrected and apologized for. I think you owe an apology to him now. \*\*

Are you asking me or ordering me?

Either way, it’s not effing likely, since to Monty, even a simple misunderstanding - later corrected, retracted, and apologized for - is still a vicious lie. Would you like a cite?

So I’ll do no such thing.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/134 "2003-04-04T01:28:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> **That’s right, Joe, JD started this. Your wife started this whole mess by hitting Eve in an incredibly tender area.**

Pssst… gobear? She had that part removed.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/135 "2003-04-04T01:31:28Z")

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Oh, and jarbaby, guinastasia, the rest of the peanut gallery:

I’m not running to the aid of my poor, defenseless wife. For the reading-comprehension-impaired, I was called into this thread by the OP.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/136 "2003-04-04T01:33:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*Are you asking me or ordering me? \*\*

Neither. I was just thinking that as Christians, maybe you might hold yourself to the higher standards of the one who said “If thy brother smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the left also.” Guess I was wrong.

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**Author:** ![Skerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Skerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skerri)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/137 "2003-04-04T01:36:03Z")

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**Joe Cool** , you are NOT “terribly sorry”. Admit it.

There are so many things that I would like to say to you, but I think this will suffice: Fuck you.

I’ve read this thread all day long, and I cannot believe the FUCKING HATE that you are spewing. No wonder you’re receiving it back in doubles. You deserve to.

For the record, I’ve met **Eve**. She’s a lovely woman. And if she looks like a man, then I look like [Lyle Alzado](http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/photos/allsport/jul98/Alzado71698.jpg)

And on preview:

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> You two are not Christian because Jesus would never be as hateful as you two are.

Thank you, **gobear**. I couldn’t have said it better.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/138 "2003-04-04T01:36:23Z")

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> I’m terribly sorry, but Eve looks like what she is: A man trying to look like a woman. If that’s too hard to deal with, it’s not my problem or my wife’s. Anyway, she shouldn’t feel bad. Cosmetic surgery performed 24 years ago can’t possibly be held to the same standards of quality we hold today.

If that comment isn’t the very definition of “don’t be a jerk,” I don’t know what is.

The fact that you can post that with a clear conscience tells me everything I need to know about you. You’re the most vile person I’ve ever known, and I feel perfectly comfortable saying that when I don’t even know you. You despicable, hateful, unbelievable asshole.

And you both think you’re spreading God’s word?!! Here’s some customer feedback for you: If believing in God in any way, shape, or form makes me associated with the likes of you, I will never embrace him. You have steered me clear of **ever** accepting Christ if you’re an example of what it means to be a Christian.

Congratulations, “Christian.”

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/139 "2003-04-04T01:37:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*Pssst… gobear? [offensive statement deleted] \*\*

Ok, this was totally uncalled for, cruel, and inappropriate, and I apologize. I don’t suppose a moderator would be willing to delete the post or edit out the offensive portion?

Please?

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**Author:** ![Skerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Skerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skerri)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/140 "2003-04-04T01:38:09Z")

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Backpeddle much?

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